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Old 03-22-2013, 09:26 AM  
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Chiefs are looking for a 2nd and a pick in 2014 for Albert


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Old 03-22-2013, 12:35 PM   #346
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Back spasms are issues. They can flare back up pardon the pun. Especially a 300 plus pound LT. Now Ive said i see both sides and like Albert. Im just on the fence
OK, then here's a very simple solution....

Let Albert pay the entire season if you're worried about his back. Let him prove his health then. That completely eliminates the need to use a 1.1 pick on his replacement "Just in case"...

That's infinitely safer and smarter than replacing him with Joke Lueckel because the team has no other choice.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:35 PM   #347
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Yeah....because offensive linemen start to decline at 31.
What was Roaf, 32 or 33 before we even picked him up?
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:36 PM   #348
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Where the **** did this mindset even come from?

If you have an above average LT, then ****ing pay the man. Overpay him if you have to. It's just stupid to mortgage the future of the offensive line over the chance of saving a few million bucks. Because guess what, if you draft a LT at 1.1, he's going to eventually want a huge contract as well. Despite whether he's actually better than the guy he replaced. If you want quality stability at the LT position, it's going to cost you and rightly so. Why is it that people are willing to let Albert walk over a few million a year of Hunt's money, but yet wouldn't think twice about spending draft picks on the same position?

It's OK to pay your priority positions. There's lots of positions where you can fill at discount prices. But at LT, it's not worth the risk. Gambling that some unknown you draft will be sufficient is a huge risk. And at 1.1, it's just not worth it.
I'm going to tag this to one of my F keys and just repost this any time a ****ing moron thinks Albert is expendable and shouldn't be "overpaid"
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:36 PM   #349
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The Chiefs were a two win team with a 200+ point differential. There wasn't a single player, coach, scout or manager who wasn't overpaid.

Getting rid of one of your top 3 offensive players to save 4 million for a year and having to use the 1st pick in the draft to replace him is idiotic.
I'd hate to see Albert go, but maybe they know something about his back that we don't.

We don't even know what Albert wants.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:36 PM   #350
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Albert has been in his prime for 2 years now. He's probably got 2, maybe 3 more years tops in that stage before he starts to decline, plus he has always had injury problems. He's injured every damn year.

Albert is 1 season away from being 30. Injuries like this don't just heal quickly when you get older, and we saw that last year when he had to miss several games.

And you want to pay this player big money?
If his back is a ticking bomb then it's the only valid reason for what they are apparently doing. imo.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:37 PM   #351
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So essentially they're trying to pick up Alex Smith for free. We trade a 2nd and a 2014 pick for Smith, then trade Albert for a 2nd and a 2014 pick and draft a cheaper, possibly as skilled player. The team stays the same as it was plus Alex Smith and minus no draft picks. That's probably what they're thinking...but what they're probably overlooking is that to draft Albert's replacement, you're basically losing.

Sure, you're gaining 2 picks to deal him, but you're losing the most valuable pick in the draft to replace him.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:37 PM   #352
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What? Should I piss and moan now like the rest of you?
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:37 PM   #353
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Because it's not guaranteed. Albert gets hurt? Ah shucks. Guess we'll just move on. It motivates Albert to seek a long-term deal at a more reasonable cost.
If you tag Albert 2 more times it's all Guaranteed.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:38 PM   #354
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The Chiefs were a two win team with a 200+ point differential. There wasn't a single player, coach, scout or manager who wasn't overpaid.

Getting rid of one of your top 3 offensive players to save 4 million for a year and having to use the 1st pick in the draft to replace him is idiotic.
Geno 1st round.
Armstead 2nd round.
ILB 3rd round.

Lot of problems solved.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:38 PM   #355
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If his back is a ticking bomb then it's the only valid reason for what they are apparently doing. imo.
And if that's the case would they know another team would check it out and thus franchising him and trying to get a 2nd be pretty stupid?

I really don't believe they think the back is a problem or they would have just let him walk and maybe go after Long in FA.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:38 PM   #356
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Well alot of peole think that trading LTs and giving up 1.1 in the process is a waste of assets. I tend to agree. I'd like to ask them why they don't want to keep Albert? Maybe if I had an explanation as to why perhaps it'd make some sense but as of right now this make little sense.
If they gave the reason it might be harder to trade him. "We think his back is bad, now does anyone want to give us draft picks for him?"
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:38 PM   #357
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If you tag Albert 2 more times it's all Guaranteed.
No shit dumbass. But it's not guaranteed year to year. We don't have to tag him if he suffers some terrible injury.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:38 PM   #358
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If you tag Albert 2 more times it's all Guaranteed.
who the hell is talking tagging Albert 2 more times?
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:38 PM   #359
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:39 PM   #360
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Let's trade Hali and Flowers. Pay Albert, trade down for scraps, take a passrusher, CB with our new 2nd rounder, save a boatload of money.

Yay money!
Time to get over Geno
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