Chiefs Worse contract for an unproven QB: Cassel vs. Osweiler

**DaFace** · 10-25-2016, 08:31 AM

It strikes me that the Texans situation this year isn't completely unlike the Chiefs back in the dark ages. Both Cassel and Osweiler had performed well with their previous teams, but both of those teams were Super Bowl contenders regardless of the quarterback. Both of them got monster contracts that many questioned, and both of them (at least thus far for Osweiler)...well...sucked pretty hardcore.

If you try and take your own Chiefs bias out of it, which contract do you think was the most egregious error on the part of their new teams?

Halfcan · 10-25-2016, 08:35 AM

Cashole.

rico · 10-25-2016, 08:38 AM

I won't ever be able to convince myself that anything is worse than anything that is remotely Cassel-related.

Mile High Mania · 10-25-2016, 08:39 AM

Shouldn't you include the fact that KC also gave up a R2 pick for Cassel and Vrabel? And, I believe that pick turned into Patrick Chung. That is part of the cost, no?

**DaFace** · 10-25-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Shouldn't you include the fact that KC also gave up a R2 pick for Cassel and Vrabel? And, I believe that pick turned into Patrick Chung. That is part of the cost, no?

Eh, I dunno. Technically they traded for him separately from the contract extension. Plus, all of that won't on one line of the poll.

Rooster · 10-25-2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rico

I won't ever be able to convince myself that anything is worse than anything that is remotely Cassel-related.

Me neither. I still have too much hatred for the Pioli years to answer this objectively.

So I vote CassHole.

Rooster · 10-25-2016, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Shouldn't you include the fact that KC also gave up a R2 pick for Cassel and Vrabel? And, I believe that pick turned into Patrick Chung. That is part of the cost, no?

No need to pour salt on the wound.

Have you ever wondered how things may have went if McDaniel could have gotten Cassel like he was trying to do before the whole Jay Cutler soap opera?

Oh how things could have been but because we are the Chiefs we got screwed again.

Molitoth · 10-25-2016, 08:48 AM

Initially the Cassel contract wasn't bad at the time of it happening.
Everyone thought that Pioli and Cassel were going to make the Chiefs a winner.

The thing that made Cassel so terrible is that after everyone figured out what he actually was... Pioli wouldn't admit his mistake and supply Todd Haley with a real QB competition.

Hydrae · 10-25-2016, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Shouldn't you include the fact that KC also gave up a R2 pick for Cassel and Vrabel? And, I believe that pick turned into Patrick Chung. That is part of the cost, no?

This fact puts Cassel over the top for me.

Coochie liquor · 10-25-2016, 08:55 AM

Mark Cassel

**wazu** · 10-25-2016, 10:01 AM

Cassel by a mile because it wasn't even necessary to have him play for KC. It was an extension given to a player who hadn't made one start for KC and was already under contract.

**The Franchise** · 10-25-2016, 10:07 AM

Cassel.

Not only did we give up the 2nd overall pick for him but trading for him severely limited what we were able to do in the draft that year with the 3rd overall pick.

ModSocks · 10-25-2016, 10:08 AM

I just wish he had stayed a Donkey...

ModSocks · 10-25-2016, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Initially the Cassel contract wasn't bad at the time of it happening.
Everyone thought that Pioli and Cassel were going to make the Chiefs a winner.

Yah...idk about that one....there was a lot of controversy there with that move.

ModSocks · 10-25-2016, 10:10 AM

Also consider that while Cassel sucked ass, at least he sucked ass on bad teams. Assweiler is worse for the Texans because he's bringing down an actual good team...

View Poll Results: Which of these is the worst contract?
Cassel (2009) - 6 years, $63 million ($10.5m AAV), $28m guaranteed	32	54.24%
Osweiler (2016) - 4 years, $72 million ($18m AAV), $37m guaranteed	26	44.07%
Gaz (2006) - Paid nothing, but pretty much disappeared.	1	1.69%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

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