Football AFCW: Week 4 - Page 4

Mile High Mania · 09-24-2013, 08:21 AM

Let me start by saying that I'm honestly very happy to see the Chiefs playing well. I've said this for years - but, I love it when the division is dominant. It's great for everyone in the long run and from a rivalry perspective, it's greatness.

I don't think either KC or Denver has truly been tested yet by a complete team... but, you can only play the teams that are up next and do what you're supposed to do. Things will shake out a bit over the next month and we'll have a much better picture at the halfway mark.

Broncos 3-0
Chiefs 3-0
Chargers 1-2
Raiders 1-2

Flip the order for Den and KC and it doesn't matter at this point...

Week 4 has the following:

Eagles @ Broncos
Giants @ Chiefs
Cowboys @ Chargers
Redskins @ Raiders

It's a pure NFCE vs AFCW and all AFC teams are at home...

Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked with any result in this game. The NFCE teams have talent and most are scrambling to find a win, especially the Giants. It's been ugly through 3 weeks and @ KC is going to be miserable for them if they don't figure out how to play football again.

The Eagles are interesting to me because of Vick/McCoy/Jackson ... that's a trio that can be lethal and Denver likes to play soft at times on 3rd down, against scrambling QBs and they give up big plays. I think the Broncos offense will be more than they can handle, but I think it will be a shootout.

The Cowboys and Chargers are a toss up to me - both have big play potential but both can play brain dead with the best of them.

Raiders and Redskins... another one that I wouldn't touch from a gambling perspective, but Shanny loves beating the Raiders and they're due if the defense can man up. I think the Redskins surprise them here, esp if Pryor is dinged up.

My thoughts...

Chiefs 34 / Giants 20
Broncos 44 / Eagles 34
Cowboys 27 / Chargers 24
Redskins 20 / Raiders 16

And, there you go... how about you?

**the Talking Can** · 09-24-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

They must've spent hours last night on ESPN talking about Manning throwing receivers open. Maybe we should try that once or twice.

you can watch any game on any sunday and see QBs regularly throwing to covered WRs...its the NFL, if WRs are wide open, someone made a mistake

ClevelandBronco · 09-24-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

The Eagles are in no way scared of the Donks

Best news possible.

Mother****erJones · 09-24-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

You're using that as reasoning for why we should score 30, but I'm using it as reasoning for why it isn't likely. Because the truth is that we haven't been scoring TDs when we had favorable field position, not after the Jacksonville game. Hopefully that changes this week, and we can have a blowout instead of a nailbiter.

If this offense ever starts to click (and it should, at some point...) then we're going to be a tough team to beat.

We haven't consistently but when it matters we have scored TDs.

**the Talking Can** · 09-24-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

We haven't consistently but when it matters we have scored TDs.

every drive matters

if we convert any of the gifts that our defense handed us in the first half, the 4th quarter of the Eagles game becomes irrelevant...

Mile High Mania · 09-24-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

We haven't consistently but when it matters we have scored TDs.

Six TDs (4 pass, 2 rush) in 3 games for a 3-0 team sounds kinda low... but, it is what it is I suppose.

keg in kc · 09-24-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

every drive matters

That's the point that nobody gets.

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if we convert any of the gifts that our defense handed us in the first half, the 4th quarter of the Eagles game becomes irrelevant...

You'll see a lot of QBs shrug off 4th quarter comeback numbers for that very reason. "If I'd played better in the first three quarters, we wouldn't have had to come back".

Not that it isn't great that they can magically run the ball in the last 4 minutes of the 4th quarter. That isn't a bad thing in any way. But they need to figure out how to stretch that out for the rest of the game. The offense needs to sustain drives in the first 3 quarters. We're actually a contender if we do that.

Mile High Mania · 09-24-2013, 09:55 AM

I've been looking at the various stats... and I'll be honest, I've only been able to watch Denver games and some parts of a few others ... in addition to highlights. So, I haven't had the time to see as much as in years past.

But, I hadn't noticed how big a piece of the action that Charles was so far... Bowe only has 9 receptions in 3 games? That's crazy...

Your defense can be as badass as it likes, but if your offense keeps up the pace they're on... it's going to result in some long days.

vailpass · 09-24-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I've been looking at the various stats... and I'll be honest, I've only been able to watch Denver games and some parts of a few others ... in addition to highlights. So, I haven't had the time to see as much as in years past.

But, I hadn't noticed how big a piece of the action that Charles was so far... Bowe only has 9 receptions in 3 games? That's crazy...

Your defense can be as badass as it likes, but if your offense keeps up the pace they're on... it's going to result in some long days.

3 a game? That's nuts.

warrior · 09-24-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Six TDs (4 pass, 2 rush) in 3 games for a 3-0 team sounds kinda low... but, it is what it is I suppose.

Ya don't have to score a lot when your defense is giving up less than 12 pt a game

O.city · 09-24-2013, 09:58 AM

In defense of our qb, he threw Bowe open 2 last week and he dropped them, so I don't know how much trust there is there and that's a problem our qb seems to have over the course of his career.

However, I'm not really shocked that this new offense isn't really chugging along on all cylinders yet. It's still a new system, new players, etc. however, it's obviously got to get better and if by week 8 it's not, we've got problems

Molitoth · 09-24-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

every drive matters

if we convert any of the gifts that our defense handed us in the first half, the 4th quarter of the Eagles game becomes irrelevant...

Bam!

Mile High Mania · 09-24-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by warrior

Ya don't have to score a lot when your defense is giving up less than 12 pt a game

Oh, so it's a "will thing" and not a "skill thing". Got it, you better hope they can flip the switch when they need it.

**HemiEd** · 09-24-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

They must've spent hours last night on ESPN talking about Manning throwing receivers open. Maybe we should try that once or twice.

At first glance, it seems right to blame Alex Smith, but I would love to see the OL start to mature and give Alex Smith more time so he can do just that.

Just maybe, once Alex has some confidence in the line giving him some time on a more frequent basis, we might see better production from Bowe.

keg in kc · 09-24-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Oh, so it's a "will thing" and not a "skill thing". Got it, you better hope they can flip the switch when they need it.

Yeah, it's not that. They just aren't clicking for most of the game, and I don't believe it's from a lack of "want to".

New system, new players, very young o-line that isn't gelling yet. They'll come around. Or they won't.

keg in kc · 09-24-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

At first glance, it seems right to blame Alex Smith, but I would love to see the OL start to mature and give Alex Smith more time so he can do just that.

Just maybe, once Alex has some confidence in the line giving him some time on a more frequent basis, we might see better production from Bowe.

I'm not blaming Alex Smith. I think he's doing exactly what he's being asked to do.

09-24-2013, 08:21 AM
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3557229	AFCW: Week 4 Let me start by saying that I'm honestly very happy to see the Chiefs playing well. I've said this for years - but, I love it when the division is dominant. It's great for everyone in the long run and from a rivalry perspective, it's greatness. I don't think either KC or Denver has truly been tested yet by a complete team... but, you can only play the teams that are up next and do what you're supposed to do. Things will shake out a bit over the next month and we'll have a much better picture at the halfway mark. Broncos 3-0 Chiefs 3-0 Chargers 1-2 Raiders 1-2 Flip the order for Den and KC and it doesn't matter at this point... Week 4 has the following: Eagles @ Broncos Giants @ Chiefs Cowboys @ Chargers Redskins @ Raiders It's a pure NFCE vs AFCW and all AFC teams are at home... Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked with any result in this game. The NFCE teams have talent and most are scrambling to find a win, especially the Giants. It's been ugly through 3 weeks and @ KC is going to be miserable for them if they don't figure out how to play football again. The Eagles are interesting to me because of Vick/McCoy/Jackson ... that's a trio that can be lethal and Denver likes to play soft at times on 3rd down, against scrambling QBs and they give up big plays. I think the Broncos offense will be more than they can handle, but I think it will be a shootout. The Cowboys and Chargers are a toss up to me - both have big play potential but both can play brain dead with the best of them. Raiders and Redskins... another one that I wouldn't touch from a gambling perspective, but Shanny loves beating the Raiders and they're due if the defense can man up. I think the Redskins surprise them here, esp if Pryor is dinged up. *My thoughts...* Chiefs 34 / Giants 20 Broncos 44 / Eagles 34 Cowboys 27 / Chargers 24 Redskins 20 / Raiders 16 And, there you go... how about you?
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09-24-2013, 09:55 AM	#52
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3557229	I've been looking at the various stats... and I'll be honest, I've only been able to watch Denver games and some parts of a few others ... in addition to highlights. So, I haven't had the time to see as much as in years past. But, I hadn't noticed how big a piece of the action that Charles was so far... Bowe only has 9 receptions in 3 games? That's crazy... Your defense can be as badass as it likes, but if your offense keeps up the pace they're on... it's going to result in some long days. __________________
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2624064	In defense of our qb, he threw Bowe open 2 last week and he dropped them, so I don't know how much trust there is there and that's a problem our qb seems to have over the course of his career. However, I'm not really shocked that this new offense isn't really chugging along on all cylinders yet. It's still a new system, new players, etc. however, it's obviously got to get better and if by week 8 it's not, we've got problems
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