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Old 11-26-2015, 12:54 PM  
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Thanksgiving Day football game shit talk
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:34 AM   #451
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Fun to read the excuses from those here of a QB they do like. The very same excuses they dismiss for QBs they do not like.

#hypocrisyFTW


"but... but.. he won a SB once five yrs ago!.. benefit of the doubt!"

yeah... with HOF wideouts.. Jordy Nelson as his #3 wideout.. and with a top 3 defense! after being silver-spooned in perfect development for yrs in a consistent scheme.



Aaron is a top QB.. I don't dispute that. But this myth that many (if truly any) QBs can consistently excel regardless of multiple deficiencies around them? About that time to get all of these QBs off of a pedestal. Even if to accept that TWO? quarterbacks in the league can defy this myth? Yeah... we can't have them.. nor can the 29 other teams.
Rodgers is a first ballot Hall of Famer. What's Alex?
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:37 AM   #452
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He can make bad receivers better. He can make good receivers turn very good. He extends plays better than any QB and he has a full arsenal of throws, from short to fade to back shoulder to deep. While receivers looked bad yesterday, I chalk up yesterday a lot more to bad playcalling and Rodgers being off more than the receivers. Rodgers is usually good enough to at least put bad receivers in a position to win.
It's been like that for over a month.

They can't throw it to Adams anymore, he has no clue what's going on.

Basically, they have cobb and James Jones who looks slower and slower each week. Cobb is a slot guy who is a bit limited.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:37 AM   #453
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The excuse making is comical though
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:39 AM   #454
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Rodgers is a great qb obviously, but if the wrs aren't on the same page as the qb, and the playcalling is dredge, we can see even the best struggle.

Perspective being that not only are the greats great, but they have great systems around them
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:45 AM   #455
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The excuse making is comical though

It should be pretty easy to understand the difference.

Rodgers has proven time and time again that he's able to find open receivers down field. He's proven that he's able and willing to make difficult throws in tight windows. He's proven that if someone is open, more often than not he'll get the ball to them.

Because of him, the Packers have had one of the best offenses in the league consistently.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:50 AM   #456
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To answer your comment, by the way, Rodgers has won a shitload of games where the defense gave up 20+ points. He won a Super Bowl with his first few receivers injured. His best receiver this year is James Jones, who the Raiders of all teams cut and a few years ago Greg Jennings regressed from one of the best receivers in the league to a glorified 800 yard receiver when he left green Bay. Aaron Rodgers has literally been the primary reason for winning In a good chunk of games. If you've ever watched a Packers game, you'll see Rodgers extend plays with his legs, throw back shoulder, throw in tight windows.

You've pretty much destroyed all credibility when you want to even hint that Rodgers success has anything to do with his receiver talent. Rodgers has made good receivers look elite for years.
Would have made the same points.
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Rodgers is a great qb obviously, but if the wrs aren't on the same page as the qb, and the playcalling is dredge, we can see even the best struggle.

Perspective being that not only are the greats great, but they have great systems around them
So when the weather is shit and Rodgers is off, everything implodes. Which is what happened yesterday. But Rodgers has still managed to make bad talent and system this year look very respectable. Rodgers' worst is still better than many qbs' best.
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So when the weather is shit and Rodgers is off, everything implodes. Which is what happened yesterday. But Rodgers has still managed to make bad talent and system this year look very respectable. Rodgers' worst is still better than many qbs' best.
It wasn't just yesterday, like I've said twice, they've been bad offensively for a while.

Statistically, the chiefs offense is better than the Packers this year or so I've read on twitter.
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Rodgers is a first ballot Hall of Famer. What's Alex?
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Rodgers can't make bad wrs good. They can't get open. It's not really on him, they can't run routes or get open
Kelce and Maclin are good receivers. Bowe was good when Alex arrived. Charles is a good receiver. Smith is not working with crap.
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lost four of five...it's fun watching people trot out the same excuses for Rodgers, that they wouldn't allow for Smith.
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Kelce and Maclin are good receivers. Bowe was good when Alex arrived. Charles is a good receiver. Smith is not working with crap.
Ok?

Where is this coming from? I've said nothing of smith or anything chiefs that I can recall?

Just stating that it takes alot of variables to have a great offense, it's not just 1 thing
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Kelce and Maclin are good receivers. Bowe was good when Alex arrived. Charles is a good receiver. Smith is not working with crap.
His receiving talent is the best he's had. That much is true.

Whether these talented, young players are running reliable routes is up for debate. There are a lot of young receivers here that probably are far from refined.. Kelce included. He has his wow moments, but there are plenty of wtf dude? moments from him still.


The only problems I am worried about right now are the OL blocking.. both run and pass.. and the playcalling (particularly RZ play calling).
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Ok?

Where is this coming from? I've said nothing of smith or anything chiefs that I can recall?

Just stating that it takes alot of variables to have a great offense, it's not just 1 thing
Posts 412 and 429 had a Alexapologist undertone. If I am reading something that isn't there, I apologize.
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Posts 412 and 429 had a Alexapologist undertone. If I am reading something that isn't there, I apologize.
I was specifically talking about rodgers, didn't mean anything else. It's all good.
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