Chiefs Who do you think will be our Day One starter at QB next season? - Page 4

**Rain Man** · 10-08-2012, 06:13 PM

Poll to follow unless I intentionally throw it into the ground to avoid a turnover.

AussieChiefsFan · 10-10-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

Just remember Chief fans... Luck and RG3 are one in a millions and the odds are in favor of you getting a Jamarcus

No.

BlackHelicopters · 10-10-2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

Just remember Chief fans... Luck and RG3 are one in a millions and the odds are in favor of you getting a Jamarcus

Can you find purple draaaaaaaaaank in KC?

R8RFAN · 10-10-2012, 07:11 AM

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Can you find purple draaaaaaaaaank in KC?

Probably find anything you want anywhere

Bump · 10-10-2012, 09:35 AM

anything other than a 1st round rookie is completely unacceptable and that rookie needs to be Geno!

R8RFAN · 10-10-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump

anything other than a 1st round rookie is completely unacceptable and that rookie needs to be Geno!

Giver it up dude.... Cleveland is 0-5 and 8 other teams are 1-3 or 1-4

qabbaan · 10-10-2012, 10:41 AM

If its Pioli, some washed up vet

Discuss Thrower · 10-10-2012, 11:07 AM

Poll fail: No Alex Tanney.

**Rain Man** · 10-10-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Poll fail: No Alex Tanney.

How dare you accuse me of poll fail. Look again, my friend. Look again.

Discuss Thrower · 10-10-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

How dare you accuse me of poll fail. Look again, my friend. Look again.

Wow, I fail. I fail HARD.

**Reaper16** · 10-10-2012, 11:52 AM

My gut tells me, regardless of who is GM, that Matt Barkley will be the opening day starter (the Chiefs winning too many games to draft Geno Smith).

CoMoChief · 10-10-2012, 11:58 AM

If Cassel is the starter of this team next year.

That will be the last straw...the final nail in the coffin, I will no longer be a Chiefs fan.

I will continue to post here...but it will be nothing but Chiefs bashing threads/posts.

Sofa King · 10-10-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

If Cassel is the starter of this team next year.

That will be the last straw...the final nail in the coffin, I will no longer be a Chiefs fan.

I will continue to post here...but it will be nothing but Chiefs bashing threads/posts.

That described 80% of the posters here already.

patteeu · 10-10-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

As some background, there have been 66 first-round quarterbacks drafted since the year we picked up Blackledge. This counts a few first-rounders in the supplemental draft, but excludes the special draft of USFL players when that league shut down.

Here's the list of them by team. The only two teams that have not drafted a quarterback in the first round during this period (1984-2012) are Kansas City and New Orleans. (In fairness, we've traded first-round picks for both Montana and Green in the past.)

4 teams have drafted four first-round quarterbacks.
7 teams have drafted three first-round quarterbacks.
11 teams have drafted two first-round quarterbacks.
8 teams have drafted one first-round quarterback.
2 teams have not drafted a first-round quarterback.

Bills - Losman
Dolphins - Tannehill
Patriots – Bledsoe
Jets – Sanchez, Pennington
Ravens - Flacco, Boller
Bengals – Palmer, Ak Smith, Klingler
Browns - Weeden, Quinn, Couch, Kosar (suppl. Pick)
Steelers - Roethlisberger
Texans - Carr
Colts – Luck, P. Manning, George
Jaguars - Gabbert, Leftwich
Titans - Locker, V. Young, McNair, J. Everett
Broncos - Tebow, Cutler, Maddox
Raiders – Russell, Marinovich
Chargers - E. Manning, Leaf

Cowboys – Walsh (suppl. Pick), Aikman
Giants - P. Rivers, D. Brown (suppl. Pick)
Eagles – McNabb
Redskins - Griffin, J. Campbell, P. Ramsey, Shuler
Bears – Grossman, McNown, Harbaugh
Lions - Stafford, Harrington, A. Ware, C. Long
Packers - Rodgers
Vikings – Ponder, Culpepper
Falcons – Ryan, Vick, C. Miller
Panthers – Newton, K. Collins
Buccaneers – Freeman, Dilfer, Testaverde
Cardinals – Leinert, Rosenbach (suppl. Pick), Stouffer
Rams - Bradford
49ers - A. Smith, Druckenmiller
Seahawks – Mirer, D. McGwire

Of those 66 first round QB picks, I only count 5 that took the team that drafted them to a SB win (6 if you count Eli Manning since the Giants essentially got him with a draft day maneuver and a little help from Archie. 4 if you don't count Trent Dilfer). Did I miss any? That's depressing.

**Rain Man** · 10-10-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Of those 66 first round QB picks, I only count 5 that took the team that drafted them to a SB win (6 if you count Eli Manning since the Giants essentially got him with a draft day maneuver and a little help from Archie. 4 if you don't count Trent Dilfer). Did I miss any? That's depressing.

That is indeed depressing, because we're all assuming it's the answer. Apparently the correct answer is that you don't need a 1st-round quarterback, but rather you need a great quarterback. Of course, the only way to get one of those is in the first round or in some sort of 6th-round lightning bolt from Mount Olympus.

We still have 18 guys who are still playing for the team that drafted them, and most of them are young. So maybe the number will go up. And I count three more who went to a Super Bowl with their original team and lost (McNabb, McNair, and Grossman), excluding PManning. And a few others who made it to the championship game - Flacco(?), Kosar, Culpepper, and Alex Smith. So it seems like the performance curve overall is decent, with roughly one in five making it to a conference championship with their team. However, one in five odds isn't exactly our expectation.

**Rausch** · 10-10-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

That is indeed depressing, because we're all assuming it's the answer. Apparently the correct answer is that you don't need a 1st-round quarterback, but rather you need a great quarterback. Of course, the only way to get one of those is in the first round or in some sort of 6th-round lightning bolt from Mount Olympus.

We still have 18 guys who are still playing for the team that drafted them, and most of them are young. So maybe the number will go up. And I count three more who went to a Super Bowl with their original team and lost (McNabb, McNair, and Grossman), excluding PManning. And a few others who made it to the championship game - Flacco(?), Kosar, Culpepper, and Alex Smith. So it seems like the performance curve overall is decent, with roughly one in five making it to a conference championship with their team. However, one in five odds isn't exactly our expectation.

Keep in mind it's also these drafted QB's that have gone to multiple SB's.

Brady, Ruthlessrapist, Manning, etc. That's like 8 SB's right there...

View Poll Results: Who do you think will be our Day One starter at QB next season?
Matt Cassel	18	14.06%
Brady Quinn	16	12.50%
Ricky F'ing Stanzi	2	1.56%
Alex Tanney	1	0.78%
Brodie Croyle	0	0%
Tom Brady	2	1.56%
Ryan Mallett	3	2.34%
Troy Brown	0	0%
Tim Tebow	1	0.78%
Kyle Orton	0	0%
Tyler Palko	0	0%
Jay Cutler	0	0%
Colt McCoy	0	0%
Charlie Batch	1	0.78%
Matt Moore	4	3.13%
Jimmy Clausen	1	0.78%
Matt Hasselbeck	2	1.56%
Peyton Manning	0	0%
One of those Cardinals quarterbacks	0	0%
Donald Stephenson (filling in for Russell Wilson)	1	0.78%
Jamaal Charles - full-time wildcat	1	0.78%
A guy currently starting for another NFL team, not otherwise named	0	0%
A guy who’s a hot young backup for another NFL team, not otherwise named (a la Flynn last year)	3	2.34%
A guy who’s a languishing young backup for another NFL team, not otherwise named	0	0%
An older veteran backup for another NFL team, not otherwise named	4	3.13%
A 1st round rookie	51	39.84%
A 2nd or 3rd round rookie	2	1.56%
A 4th through 7th round rookie	1	0.78%
An undrafted rookie	0	0%
Some guy from the CFL or other alternative league	0	0%
Some guy off the street who has never played organized football, like maybe Todd Haley	0	0%
Scott Pioli, as a moneysaving move	3	2.34%
A dog or other quadruped	0	0%
A monkey or other primate	3	2.34%
An inanimate object like a chair or rock	7	5.47%
I’m waiting to see what the banner says about it	1	0.78%
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