Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 82

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

stonedstooge · 03-06-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chefsos

Guarantee it. If they don't, I'll give away all my Royals stuff.

Can I get dibs on it?

**chefsos** · 03-06-2013, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Can I get dibs on it?

Sure...everything Royals that I own. I'll make a list:

Dr. Johnny Fever · 03-06-2013, 05:25 PM

The early schedule should tell us some things.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/sch...lendar=DEFAULT

Open at the White Sox and Phillies. April games in Detroit, Boston and Atlanta. Rays on there.

I was told by a guy I generally trust the other day that we have the hardest schedule in MLB this year. I don't know if that's true but it would figure.

Chief_For_Life58 · 03-06-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Remind me again: Winning in March means what?

back to back to back world series titles starting this season

mr. tegu · 03-06-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Remind me again: Winning in March means what?

If we were 0-11 would you be saying that?

Dr. Johnny Fever · 03-06-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

If we were 0-11 would you be saying that?

Good point. While winning in spring means little more than building confidence and chemistry I'll take that over losing and hope it carries over.

okcchief · 03-06-2013, 05:37 PM

You have to take spring training with a grain of salt, but winning convincingly every day has to mean something, right? If we don't go .500 this year I need to have baseball's existence wiped from my memory.

BlackHelicopters · 03-06-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Facebook Fever

Good point. While winning in spring means little more than building confidence and chemistry I'll take that over losing and hope it carries over.

True enough. Too many are JITP over March success.

Strongside · 03-06-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief

You have to take spring training with a grain of salt, but winning convincingly every day has to mean something, right? If we don't go .500 this year I need to have baseball's existence wiped from my memory.

Shit, if nothing else, this young group is headed into the regular season with probably more confidence ans swagger than any other team right now. This could seriously be fun if they get hot early.

BlackHelicopters · 03-06-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

If we were 0-11 would you be saying that?

0-11 in March? Who knows what I might say. Just a cautious 28 year pessimist I suppose.

tk13 · 03-06-2013, 09:01 PM

What's amazing is not that they're just winning, they're dominating everyone, every single day. That doesn't mean they'll even have a winning record... but I don't recall this team being quite so dominant even when they had great springs. They at least look ready to compete. Hopefully something carries over.

Valiant · 03-06-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Remind me again: Winning in March means what?

broken dreams

Valiant · 03-06-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Facebook Fever

The early schedule should tell us some things.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/sch...lendar=DEFAULT

Open at the White Sox and Phillies. April games in Detroit, Boston and Atlanta. Rays on there.

I was told by a guy I generally trust the other day that we have the hardest schedule in MLB this year. I don't know if that's true but it would figure.

When you have one of the worst records, your schedule always looks tough..

**alnorth** · 03-06-2013, 10:18 PM

LOL, looks like someone is amped up.

Quote:

Jeremy Guthrie ‏@TheRealJGuts
I can barely sleep tonight, biggest spring training game ever tomorrow! #Royals #Mariners

KChiefs1 · 03-06-2013, 10:36 PM

Hosmer playing for team USA...should I be happy?

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