Tom Brady; least clutch QB in NFL history?

[Hootie]

(Slow day at work for me, guys):

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR is Rex Grossman bad, in case anyone wanted a reference point.

[Bufkin]

And this was all created because many posters have rightfully labeled Tony Romo trash in the postseason.

Tom Brady has 3 Super Bowl rings and 5 AFC championship rings. Of those 3 Super Bowls, he was MVP for 2 of them. He's also a 2 time MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. Romo does not have one of these accomplishments.

It's genuinely a HUGE disservice to your argument when you trot out the greatest QB of all time.

[RealSNR]

[Hootie]

Some key stats:

In these 8 playoff losses, they were favored in 6 of 8 (losing both underdog games to Peyton "choker" Manning). The Super Bowl loss in 2007 was a 13.5 point favorite. The Jets game was a 13 point favorite. The Ravens game was 8.5 (Flacco rookie year).

These are major upsets. Like. You see once or twice a year upsets.

Also, his 4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR in the postseason are both lower than the ... GET THIS ... 11.8 QBR Tim Tebow put up against Tom Brady in their 10-45 defeat in that postseason.

So think about Tim Tebow.

Think about that 11.8 performance.

And realize, in back to back years, in back to back games, Tom Brady lost heavily favored home game in the postseason to Mark Sanchez (4.2 QBR) and Joe Flacco (8.7 QBR).

Those are individual losses.

It's truly pathetic.

[Titty Meat]

Hooties football takes have been awful this year.

[Hootie]

No, this is absolute proof that this board, and the media, and everyone else has no idea what clutch QB play is.

Because many think Tom Brady is the clutchest QB ever.

And it took me 15 minutes to disprove that.

[Bufkin]

3 Super Bowl Rings.

5 AFC Championship Rings.

2 Super Bowl MVP's.

compare that to:

18 hilarious gifs of Tony Romo ending the season for the Dallas Cowboys.

GTFO

[Hootie]

I just gave everyone 10 straight seasons of postseason ineptitude but my football takes are horrible?

HE POSTED A 4.2 QBR @ HOME AGAINST MARK SANCHEZ. IN THE PLAYOFFS.

If Peyton Manning or Tony Romo did that, the Internet would have ceased to exist.

[Donger]

I agree. I'm glad that he isn't the Chiefs' quarterback. He sucks.

[Nightfyre]

Joe Montana is the clutchest QB ever. Tom Brady is just the winningest.

[Bufkin]

Hootie has officially jumped the shark.

Next time in Hootie threads, we'll analyze the airtight evidence of Derek Jeter being the biggest choke-artist in MLB history. Tune in gents!

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Bufkin

3 Super Bowl Rings.

5 AFC Championship Rings.

2 Super Bowl MVP's.

compare that to:

18 hilarious gifs of Tony Romo ending the season for the Dallas Cowboys.

GTFO

...10 years of postseason ineptitude

while the board says Russell Wilson is slightly above average

even though he is exactly what Tom Brady was to his team during their 3 Super Bowls in 4 years

...I won this thread before I even hit 'submit'

[Hootie]

Ha.

Fine.

I was waiting the other day for the Pats homers on the board to analyze those last 10 years and then give me an explanation for what has happened.

Since, clearly there is none, and clearly he has transformed into a postseason choker, I realize that I am right on this topic.

Case closed.

[Nightfyre]

I somehow doubt the "Least Clutch QB in NFL History" is 18-8 in playoff games and has 5 AFCCG and 3 SBs. Hootie, you really need to take a dose of humility and own up to this non-sense. You did not win this thread in any way, shape or form.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Joe Montana is the clutchest QB ever. Tom Brady is just the winningest.

Montana lost his share of big games too. Every QB does. It's just when you win "x amount" of big games, the media then forgets about all the other big games you lost.