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Old 02-28-2012, 05:05 PM   #1
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:10 PM   #2
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:11 PM   #3
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No team has ever traded that much for a quarterback and gone on to win two Super Bowls with that quarterback as the Super Bowl MVP in each of them.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:15 PM   #4
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No team has ever traded that much for a quarterback and gone on to win two Super Bowls with that quarterback as the Super Bowl MVP in each of them.
Well, we havent been tot he Superbowl in over 40 years, somethings gotta give. lol
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:42 PM   #5
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No team has ever traded that much for a quarterback and gone on to win two Super Bowls with that quarterback as the Super Bowl MVP in each of them.
They had Philip RIvers
I'm not convinced they wouldn't have been better off keeping him & the draft picks
or maybe that should be no worse off..
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:46 AM   #6
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They had Philip RIvers
I'm not convinced they wouldn't have been better off keeping him & the draft picks
or maybe that should be no worse off..
Who would you take with the game on the line? I know who I'm taking and it isn't Rivers.
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:51 AM   #7
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Who would you take with the game on the line? I know who I'm taking and it isn't Rivers.
THe only reason Schefter chose to use the Eli/Philip trade comparison. Is because Shanahan is picking #4 (area-oops) like the Giants did. A QB trade & picks doesn't fit this situation as far as I can see it.

RIvers was better earlier & longer than Eli was. Who knows how it would have turned out. I don't think they'd be pissed about not making the costly move
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:00 AM   #8
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THe only reason Schefter chose to use the Eli/Philip trade comparison. Is because Shanahan is picking #4 (area-oops) like the Giants did. A QB trade & picks doesn't fit this situation as far as I can see it.

RIvers was better earlier & longer than Eli was. Who knows how it would have turned out. I don't think they'd be pissed about not making the costly move
Bottom line is that the Giants have won two SBs, and a huge reason for that is that Eli has come through in the clutch several times in playoff games.

Meanwhile the Chargers haven't won jack, and a big reason for that is that Rivers has not.

Numbers mean shit.

What matters is what you do when the chips are in.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:18 PM   #9
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:28 PM   #10
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If your goal is to win one or more CHAMPIONSHIPS, the risk is higher for NOT doing WHATEVER IT TAKES to get a bluechip quarterback prospect.

Go, look up how much NY gave up for Eli.

2 superbowls, so far.

I'd give either Carr OR Bowe in a tag/trade deal along with the whole 2012 draft to move up if that's what it takes.

We aren't gonna win a ****ing thing with Cassel.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:36 PM   #11
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If your goal is to win one or more CHAMPIONSHIPS, the risk is higher for NOT doing WHATEVER IT TAKES to get a bluechip quarterback prospect.

Go, look up how much NY gave up for Eli.

2 superbowls, so far.

I'd give either Carr OR Bowe in a tag/trade deal along with the whole 2012 draft to move up if that's what it takes.

We aren't gonna win a ****ing thing with Cassel.

So my question is......what would be the feeling about Pioli if he:

1. Let Carr walk.
2. Franchised Bowe
3. Traded Bowe, our 1st this year and a 1st next year for RGIII.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:44 PM   #12
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So my question is......what would be the feeling about Pioli if he:

1. Let Carr walk.
2. Franchised Bowe
3. Traded Bowe, our 1st this year and a 1st next year for RGIII.
I'm not a fan of giving up the entire draft but if the guy does anything to get us a potential top tier QB I'll be much less upset by him.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:55 PM   #13
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So my question is......what would be the feeling about Pioli if he:

1. Let Carr walk.
2. Franchised Bowe
3. Traded Bowe, our 1st this year and a 1st next year for RGIII.
I would think the best deal for both us and them would be for us to tag and trade them Carr, our 1st/3rd/5th...

You'd have to assume we'll probably get some compensatory picks for Orton and Shaun Smith, so losing the 3rd/5th is not that bad. We'd get at least one of them back. Also, we can't keep both Bowe and Carr, so pay Bowe, tag/trade Carr, otherwise we'll just let him go. In all actuality, we're really only out the difference between our 3rd/5th, and what we receive for compensatory picks.

If they like, they can stay put and finally get a LT to protect Bradford, which might help more than a WR. Or, they can use some of their bounty to trade back up to get Blackmon if they like.

I used to be iffy on RG3. Them more I've watched him, and the more I've followed him from interviews, combine and other such things, the less questions I have about the guy. I think he's worth it.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:48 PM   #14
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So my question is......what would be the feeling about Pioli if he:

1. Let Carr walk.
2. Franchised Bowe
3. Traded Bowe, our 1st this year and a 1st next year for RGIII.
I would feel like we FINALLY took the correct FIRST STEP.

IMO, the only situation I like better is Manning + Tannehill.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:57 PM   #15
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I would feel like we FINALLY took the correct FIRST STEP.

IMO, the only situation I like better is Manning + Tannehill.
I really don't see the Chiefs signing Manning and then drafting Tannehill. If you're going to get Manning, you have to give him the best supporting cast RIGHT NOW, which means drafting a Trent Richardson or an Olineman in the first round this year.
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