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Old 02-23-2013, 10:05 AM   #1
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There was a 1% difference between Manuel and Smith on deep passes. If you think EJ sucks on the deep stuff, then you have to come to the same conclusion with Smith (who has two potential first round receivers).
You conveniently left out the number of attempts.

In terms of moving the chains, 25 of 50 attempts over 10 yards is FAR MORE impactful than completing 7 of 10.

I love listening to people that never actually watched Manuel play.

That being said, I could TOTALLY see the Chiefs picking him, especially at #34.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:09 AM   #2
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You conveniently left out the number of attempts.

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According to secondroundstats they threw about the same % of passes over 20 yards (as compared to their own total number of passes). In fact, EJ's % was slightly higher.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:15 AM   #3
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According to secondroundstats they threw about the same % of passes over 20 yards (as compared to their own total number of passes). In fact, EJ's % was slightly higher.
Geno Smith threw FOUR HUNDRED more passes than Manuel did over the last 2 seasons.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:17 AM   #4
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According to secondroundstats they threw about the same % of passes over 20 yards (as compared to their own total number of passes). In fact, EJ's % was slightly higher.
So you argue for EJ Manuel being among the top QBs in this class, but it's a giant stretch for me to say Ryan Nassib will get taken by some gullible team in the first round.

Gotcha.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:18 AM   #5
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So you argue for EJ Manuel being among the top QBs in this class, but it's a giant stretch for me to say Ryan Nassib will get taken by some gullible team in the first round.

Gotcha.
He doesn't actually have an opinion. He's just here to play Devil's Advocate.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:20 AM   #6
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He doesn't actually have an opinion. He's just here to play Devil's Advocate.
how's life doing?


everything ok?


you seem a bit 'angry' lately
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:25 AM   #7
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you seem a bit 'angry' lately
Life is great.

I am angry but it's 100% related to Chiefs football.
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I am angry but it's 100% related to Chiefs football.


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He doesn't actually have an opinion. He's just here to play Devil's Advocate.
Oh no, people don't agree with me that Geno is fabulous, wah, I'm going to leave the board for a year, again.

I have always given my opinion on players.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:01 PM   #10
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Oh no, people don't agree with me that Geno is fabulous, wah, I'm going to leave the board for a year, again.

I have always given my opinion on players.


Too bad nobody knows what your actual opinions are because they're buried underneath dozens of posts of you ridiculing other people's opinions.

This has nothing to do with whether or not you agree with ME. This has everything to do with you being a miserable ****ing asshole.
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:07 PM   #11
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Too bad nobody knows what your actual opinions are because they're buried underneath dozens of posts of you ridiculing other people's opinions.
Geno Smith - Poor footwork. Good windup and release. Very good accuracy on his first reads up to 15 yards out. I haven't seem him drive the ball with authority in poor weather (Syracuse and Tex Tech). I think he gets nice air under his long ball, I was surprised his completion % over 20 yards is so bad. I think his numbers are inflated greatly by his system and YAC. I'm bothered by his pouting on the sideline when the offense is playing poorly. I don't think he is anything special under pressure as well as pocket presence. Hasn't shown the ability to play under center (that includes 2010 where every single highlight I've seen of him, he's in the shotgun). I'm okay with KC taking him at #1 although I think in most draft classes he isn't the first QB off the board.

Barkley - Best QB in the class from the time the huddle breaks until the ball is thrown. Lack of arm strength is a huge issue. Saw a lot of just missed INTs this year where defenders were able to jump the throw but had stone hands. I'd rather not have a Chad Pennington as my franchise QB.

That's the only two QBs I think could possibly go in the top 20.
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Oh no, people don't agree with me that Geno is fabulous, wah, I'm going to leave the board for a year, again.

I have always given my opinion on players.
Dude, you know exactly what game you play on this board. It's ridiculous. EJ f'n Manual
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Dude, you know exactly what game you play on this board. It's ridiculous. EJ f'n Manual
I never said EJ should be taken at #1. I took issue when a HUGE Geno supporter said EJ sucked because he can't throw deep. All I pointed out was that their downfield percentage over 20 yards was similar. Be consistent. If you hold it against EJ, hold it against Smith.
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So you argue for EJ Manuel being among the top QBs in this class.
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Geno Smith is considered by 99% of people to be a top QB in this class.

All the stats you're posting about EJ Manuel are because you're trying to show how close and successful he is compared to Geno Smith.

Therefore....
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