KU Dickie V. picks KU to win the title next year

**Buehler445** · 04-07-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

Wow that's some tangent reasoning there. Self and Roy are linked and no amount of complaining or crying will change it. It just is.

I was trying to point out the fault in your logic.

Self won't get any bullshit from me for Roy winning titles at UNC.

Self has already outproduced Roy with the closest possible circumstances. Same school, same timeframe, same recruiting rules...Who gives a **** what he does at UNC? He couldn't get it done at KU, and Self did.

In my mind Self>Roy. I don't give a shit what the media or anyone else tries to tell me. In the closest possible circumstances, Self outproduced Roy.
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htismaqe · 04-07-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I was trying to point out the fault in your logic.

Self won't get any bullshit from me for Roy winning titles at UNC.

Self has already outproduced Roy with the closest possible circumstances. Same school, same timeframe, same recruiting rules...Who gives a **** what he does at UNC? He couldn't get it done at KU, and Self did.

In my mind Self>Roy. I don't give a shit what the media or anyone else tries to tell me. In the closest possible circumstances, Self outproduced Roy.
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I gotta think that if Self were at UNC, they'd still be winning titles.

He's a superior coach AND recruiter when compared to Roy, IMO.

I know some KU fans might take offense, but I think UNC is slightly ahead of KU in terms of prestige. Frankly, I'd be concerned if Roy couldn't win there, considering what he has at his disposal.

**DeezNutz** · 04-07-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I gotta think that if Self were at UNC, they'd still be winning titles.

He's a superior coach AND recruiter when compared to Roy, IMO.

I know some KU fans might take offense, but I think UNC is slightly ahead of KU in terms of prestige. Frankly, I'd be concerned if Roy couldn't win there, considering what he has at his disposal.

UNC is the top program in college basketball, and I don't even see this as really being arguable. They're 1A.

The other top programs, KU, Duke, UCLA, etc., are 1B. Still great, but not quite on the same level. Obviously, this all assumes these programs keep elite-level coaches. Even UNC has fallen on hard times with the wrong guy as the HC.

DJay23 · 04-07-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

UNC is the top program in college basketball, and I don't even see this as really being arguable. They're 1A.

The other top programs, KU, Duke, UCLA, etc., are 1B. Still great, but not quite on the same level. Obviously, this all assumes these programs keep elite-level coaches. Even UNC has fallen on hard times with the wrong guy as the HC.

I think UNC is now either tied or within 2 wins of Kentucky as far as all time wins. Kansas is 3rd. In light of UK's recent purchase, i think they are on the road back to relevance.

CoMoChief · 04-07-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23

I think UNC is now either tied or within 2 wins of Kentucky as far as all time wins. Kansas is 3rd. In light of UK's recent purchase, i think they are on the road back to relevance.

**** Kentucky basketball.

CoMoChief · 04-07-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I gotta think that if Self were at UNC, they'd still be winning titles.

He's a superior coach AND recruiter when compared to Roy, IMO.

I know some KU fans might take offense, but I think UNC is slightly ahead of KU in terms of prestige. Frankly, I'd be concerned if Roy couldn't win there, considering what he has at his disposal.

Self and Roy are both the same in terms of recruiting. Some of the best KU players ever came under his watch. People forget that now that Self won the title at Kansas.

Pants · 04-07-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Self and Roy are both the same in terms of recruiting. Some of the best KU players ever came under his watch. People forget that now that Self won the title at Kansas.

Self is a better recruiter.

CoMoChief · 04-07-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Self is a better recruiter.

How so? I'm not bashing Self here, I just don't think theres a clear difference on whos a better recruiter. Like I said before many all time KU greats came under Roy's watch.

Pants · 04-07-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

How so? I'm not bashing Self here, I just don't think theres a clear difference on whos a better recruiter. Like I said before many all time KU greats came under Roy's watch.

Self gets 4-5 stars year in and year out.

CoMoChief · 04-07-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Self gets 4-5 stars year in and year out.

So does Roy

htismaqe · 04-07-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Self and Roy are both the same in terms of recruiting. Some of the best KU players ever came under his watch. People forget that now that Self won the title at Kansas.

Make no mistake about it, Roy got good players at KU. Self did a good job at Illinois though, which is not even close to the same recruiting level as UNC and KU, even with Chicago in their backyard.