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Old 01-01-2013, 03:04 PM  
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Is Hunt Telling The Truth?

Don't want to start a panic, but I know we are all thinking the same thing even if we want to ignore it. Clark SAYS he is gonna hire a vet coach that's experienced in what we need and that Pioli won't play a part in the search, but then we keep hearing about guys Pioli has connections with getting interviews and how Clark hasn't even contacted Andy Reid.

I may be jumping the gun here, but this is starting to remind me of last years "we are gonna bring in qb competition" talks that we all know how that ended.

Is this a "fool me once..." type scenario or are all the tree coaches interviewing just bs leaked by Pioli to create the impression he still has his nuts?

Should we be pissed?
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:11 PM   #196
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I would assume that the coach Hunt hires has to have a good history with QB's. I don't see that with Cowher.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:11 PM   #197
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The questions are, how bad does Cowher want to come back to coaching, and does he view the Chiefs as a workable situation?
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:12 PM   #198
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I would assume that the coach Hunt hires has to have a good history with QB's. I don't see that with Cowher.
If he wants to draft the next Roethlisberger, I'll let him.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:13 PM   #199
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That's the worst part, especially with a rabid fanbase that wants answers/solutions yesterday at the latest.
As long as they dont make me renew before its decided. lol... I am good with waiting it out.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:16 PM   #200
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The fact we have heard literally 0 reports from the media on Gruden or Cowher is interesting.

Carl was also in KC on Monday, according to a fan post on AP.
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Let's double flashback to Pioli's interview tour. It was done without Clark's blessing. It was done to make Scott seem to be personable, dedicated and focused. All traits that a new employer wants to see during the time of "crisis". Face it, this season has been a massive crisis. Scott wants to demonstrate he can handle himself. So he did what he thought was a good thing.

Clark was pissed. He was in Chicago having a conversation with a well-to-do ex Chiefs coach who has enjoyed a storied head coaching career in a town that rhymes with Hittsburg and is now on TV.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:16 PM   #201
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I just hope that Clark isn't so deadlocked that if Cowher declines, that we don't get royally ****ed and end up with some slapdick out of desperation. Sound familiar?

Cowher just makes too much sense.

Clark's been talking to Marty. You know Marty is going to bat for Cowher, and doing the same for Clark to BC.

Clark has a hard-on for all things Steelers.

Cowher fits the criteria Clark laid out yesterday to a T.

Cowher immediately fills Arrowhead, or at least comes close - certainly brings in more fans than any other possible hire.

Cowher wants total control, and based on Clark's comments yesterday, he's looking for that type of HC.

The question is, how bad does Cowher want to come back to coaching?
If he wants to coach again? I know we can go round and round all night about the roster, but if he wants to coach again, its a spot he is familiar with, knows what he is walking into, and gets everything he wants.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:16 PM   #202
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FYP.
Fair enough. Much more accurate.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:17 PM   #203
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If he wants to draft the next Roethlisberger, I'll let him.
You mean a guy who was expected to win the heisman his final year of college and dropped to the Steelers? I'm not excited by that.

Cowhers complete QB history is annoying more than anything. He hardly had anything to do with Roethlisberger other than making a fairly easy pick.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:18 PM   #204
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So, in this scenario, everyone in the NFL except for Clark Hunt is afraid of what SOC can do?
No. Coaches & GM's mainly.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:19 PM   #205
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I don't believe the Ferentz garbage, but I do expect Pioli (not Clark) will hire one of his cronies to HC this team next season. They are going to hunker down another season.

If they like Koetter, it's going to get done right away. If not, I expect them to wait for Josh McD and he'll be the HC.

No "big shot HC" hire happening here. Only a fool or bottom feeder will sign Clark's flimsy dotted line because everybody in the NFL fears SOC folks now & Pioli has one last stand.

They'll likely keep Gary Gibbs at DC running the 34, let him pick and choose his staff and figure in the new OC & staff on that side of the ball. I am hopeful the ST coach was RC's guy, because he was no good for this ST unit.

That's about it. As for whether I'd be turning my back on the Chiefs if I find out Clark is lying -- omitting the truth during an explanation is lying in my book -- Clark's sidestepping comment with regard to Pioli was a ****ing lie -- as of this point, Clark is fine with Pioli continuing to run football operations for the team.

Unless I see evidence Clark was not lying, I'll go with Clark is a big ass liar -- just another dishonest "businessman" and we all know the new rule$ on greed post '80's. He ain't the first liar we've been around and really, it's sports -- not like it effects me much. I stopped giving the Chiefs my financial support a year ago. Hell, what Goodell and all the owners have done to this game bothers me more.

But hey, if you're gonna lie, try and be clever about it. I do get annoyed at stupid lies.


Josh McDaniel has already notified the league that he will not interview for jobs.

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Old 01-01-2013, 05:19 PM   #206
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Carl Peterson is more likely to come back than we are to get Cowher
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:20 PM   #207
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That's the report I referenced earlier.

He also said somewhere that Clark talked to gruden the morning after the pittsburgh game. Maybe in the same post
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:20 PM   #208
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Fair enough. Much more accurate.
If we get a "name" like Cowher, etc., this will also be a pretty big statement about the status of the current roster.

These types of coaches are not going to walk into a situation that they view as a hot mess. They'll go to a situation where it will be plug and play with a few pieces, with immediate expectations for strong seasons.
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Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline. Possible that he's had similar discussions with guys like Billick and Gruden, but I'd bet it's Cowher's job to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.
VERY plausible.
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I'm glad he hasn't contacted Andy Reid. Stay the hell away from that.

And I'm gonna hate life if it's Cowher.
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