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Old 06-29-2013, 06:23 PM  
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Spinoff of the woman getting beaten in her home. That thread got me thinking, and I wondered what everyone had to protect their loved ones/family. I have an ADT security system with motion detectors, I also have two pitbulls, both the wife and I have numerous firearms and have taken firearm training.

That thread really made me more content paying $50 a month for 24/7 monitoring/protection of my family and home.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:46 PM   #16
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Pretty much. Even guns are a false security blanket; you're much more likely to get shot in your home if you have a gun in the house, period. I don't fault people who have either - the peace of mind has a definite value for some - but the fact of the matter is the increase in personal safety is negligible.
I agree completely with your last statement. Most people do not have the training to use a firearm correctly. Mix that in with darkness and arousal from deep sleep and you have a gun wielding person who would be more dangerous to themselves than the intruder.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:46 PM   #17
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I think it depends where you live...
I think that's fair. Some neighborhoods are more prone to issues than others for sure. And you probably have more stuff to steal than the average Joe might as well.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:46 PM   #18
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I live in the crappiest house in a nice neighborhood, so I don't really worry about anyone picking my place to come in and steal shit. There's much better targets around here.


There's a saying its better to have the worst home in the neighborhood then having the best.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:47 PM   #19
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:48 PM   #20
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I think that's fair. Some neighborhoods are more prone to issues than others for sure. And you probably have more stuff to steal than the average Joe might as well.
The strange thing is that our neighborhood was deemed the safest in the USA just a year or two ago (90068). I guess maybe they didn't take into account robbery attempts?
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:49 PM   #21
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Would love to see pics of Dane's Fort.
They're on here some where
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:50 PM   #22
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They're on here some where
Would love to see pics as well, sounds pretty sweet.
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The strange thing is that our neighborhood was deemed the safest in the USA just a year or two ago (90068). I guess maybe they didn't take into account robbery attempts?


Sounds like someone pulled some strings to raise the property values up would be my assessment.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:52 PM   #24
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Just post a "gun-free zone" sign outside your residence.

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Old 06-29-2013, 06:52 PM   #25
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I guess another reason I was thinking about this was because last Saturday my cousin and her husbands house was robbed. They lost anything of value, and they feel very compromised and have been contemplating moving now.
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Sounds like someone pulled some strings to raise the property values up would be my assessment.
Nah, are property values weren't hurt much by the crash and are almost back to Pre-crash numbers.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:55 PM   #27
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ADT + guns. Should be sufficient.
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Would love to see pics as well, sounds pretty sweet.
It's really hard to photograph because it's 45 foot tall. Street level pics don't do it justice and I can't take a front facing pic from the opposing hillside anymore due to the neighbor's gigantic, mega dangerous tree.
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My brother worked in an embassy in Honduras his house was surrounded by 12 foot walls with cut up glass on top of the walls.



The Bourne Ultimatum movie had a scene in Italy I think where Jason was climbing over similar walls using wrapped cloth to protect his hands it brought back memories.
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I think it depends where you live.

We have some close friends that lived in Hancock Park that never used their security system. They have easy street access (unlike the Hills) and one night at 2am, two guys broke into their home. He doesn't own a gun but he grabbed a baseball bat and was hitting them as they were trying to find loot. Their dogs were barking but didn't attack (although the dogs surrounded his wife to protect her). Finally, the attackers left. They were so spooked that they couldn't even live in their home for two months and later sold it. From that point on, I began using my alarm system every night.

In 2009, someone tried to break into my home while we were visiting KC. We're we barely gone 8 hours before the attempt, so they were definitely casing my home. The alarm went off at 4am but by the time the police responded, they were gone.

In 2010, it happened again. Same window, no theft, but attempted break in. In 2011, not only did the alarm go off but my phone box was found wide open, as the burglars were attempting to cut the phone wires, so that ADT and the police would not be notified. It's 12 foot up the side of the house so they had to bring a ladder. I put a heavy duty padlock on the box when we returned to town.

Since then, I added another seven foot gate with spikes on top so they can't access that window and additional gate out back. I've added the ADT Pulse system, which includes a cell phone to call ADT if the phone lines are cut, cameras, along with numerous other safety features (dead bolts, security doors, more external gates, etc.).

The oddest part is that my house is a fort and I have no idea why anyone would want to walk up or down 50 stairs, in the dark, without knowing where they're going. But, I'm not a thief, so I can't possibly understand that mindset.

All I can do is protect my home and belongings the best I can.
Jesus Christ - sounds like somebody's really got a hard-on for your stuff.

You might want to add a shotgun to your home defense plan.
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