If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Alex had physical talent until his arm got torn off. Now he is a mediocre arm with a mediocre football intellect.

I can't let that skate. Alex is very intelligent and makes great on-field decisions. There is no way he has "mediocre football intellect". He is not Peyton Manning, but a key strength of Smith's is his football intellect.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

I can't let that skate. Alex is very intelligent and makes great on-field decisions.

Nein.

He makes SAFE football decisions...

[BigCatDaddy]

I have a dream. I have a dream that someday the Royals will quit being a feeder system for big market franchises and the Chiefs will quit being fall back plans for every QB that's wasn't good enough to play for a contender. Oh I have a dream!

[Rasputin]

Matt Barkley would have been better with our second round pick and save our picks for next year and again draft a quarterback.


We should take back to back quarterback years at top of the drafts for competition and create trade value for future picks. Neglecting the quarterback in the draft for 30 years wouldn't hurt one damn bit to do that.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Matt Barkley would have been better with our second round pick

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Rausch

He gets through them just fine he just NEVER see's a man open enough.

Watch the Bengals vs. 49'ers game from 3 years back. There was no pressure on him. Neither offense could accomplish jack $#it. Bengals stacked vs. the run.

There was no pressure.

He went full-dank-diaper until the 4th quarter.

This is the perfect example of a guy who plays better when he DOESN'T over-think...

'This is the perfect example of a guy who plays better when he DOESN'T over-think...'

QFT

What happened in the 2011 Saints Divisional game? Alex had his back against the wall, do or die with nothing to lose. He quit thinking and played flawlessly.

He is over-analytical and risk averse. If you could program him with Aaron Rodgers' appetite for risk -- take the appropriate risk at the appropriate time -- he would be a top 10 QB, about as effective as Eli Manning.

He was born over-analytical. It is not coach-able. Reid had better understand this perfectly.

[R8RFAN]

At first I wasn't keen on Tyler Wilson but I am warming up to the guy

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

'This is the perfect example of a guy who plays better when he DOESN'T over-think...'

QFT

What happened in the 2011 Saints Divisional game? Alex had his back against the wall, do or die with nothing to lose. He quit thinking and played flawlessly.

He is over-analytical and risk averse. If you could program him with Aaron Rodgers' appetite for risk -- take the appropriate risk at the appropriate time -- he would be a top 10 QB, about as effective as Eli Manning.

He was born over-analytical. It is not coach-able. Reid had better understand this perfectly.

Absolutely.

It won't matter. Most here have never watched the guy.

They sure as hell didn't watch him for the last 3 seasons.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Nein.

He makes SAFE football decisions...

I said "intellect". You can be savvy and know how to identify a great stock market trade but still lack the balls to commit your money to it.

The intellect is not the problem. He studies. He understands the playbook inside and out. He assists in the game planning. He understands his opponent's defenses. He reads pre-snap defenses exceedingly well. Alex's audible's was one reason Gore was so effective rushing.

He can't take complete advantage of that intellect because as you said, he makes safe decisions. He is risk averse and isn't willing to take a gamble when the game is on the line and calls for taking a gamble. He plays it safe to the last whistle.

There are a few exceptions to this and the Saints game is THE exception tha proves the rule.

You are dead right. He plays it safe. No risk, no reward.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by milkman

And in spite of that, as Claythan has pointed out a number of times, Matt Cassel has gone deep with more regularity than Alex Smith.

Whatever Alex Smith has been doing, it's been working.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

I said "intellect". You can be savvy and know how to identify a great stock market trade but still lack the balls to commit your money to it.

The intellect is not the problem. He studies. He understands the playbook inside and out. He assists in the game planning. He understands his opponent's defenses. He reads pre-snap defenses exceedingly well. Alex's audible's was one reason Gore was so effective rushing.

He can't take complete advantage of that intellect because as you said, he makes safe decisions. He is risk averse and isn't willing to take a gamble when the game is on the line and calls for taking a gamble. He plays it safe to the last whistle.

There are a few exceptions to this and the Saints game is THE exception tha proves the rule.

You are dead right. He plays it safe. No risk, no reward.

He has the smarts of a Steve Young and the FEAR of a Tim Couch.

We traded for an older and much stronger armed Barkley...

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by R8ers

At first I wasn't keen on Tyler Wilson but I am warming up to the guy

Dude you should see the posters on here who wanted Tyler Wilson. You would change your mind.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

I said "intellect". You can be savvy and know how to identify a great stock market trade but still lack the balls to commit your money to it.

The intellect is not the problem. He studies. He understands the playbook inside and out. He assists in the game planning. He understands his opponent's defenses. He reads pre-snap defenses exceedingly well. Alex's audible's was one reason Gore was so effective rushing.

He can't take complete advantage of that intellect because as you said, he makes safe decisions. He is risk averse and isn't willing to take a gamble when the game is on the line and calls for taking a gamble. He plays it safe to the last whistle.

There are a few exceptions to this and the Saints game is THE exception tha proves the rule.

You are dead right. He plays it safe. No risk, no reward.

He's a very talented, very smart, pussy.

The end...

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Rausch

He's a very talented, very smart, pussy.

The end...

The Chiefs version of Luke Hochaver.
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[Mav]

Originally Posted by milkman

Reid is the most overrated "QB guru" ever.

Disagree. Wouldnt that be either Brian Billick, or Jon Gruden?

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

Smith has confidence?

Is that why he throws the ball down the field LESS than Cassel?

He throws the ball less down field than Cassel because that is what he was instructed to do. They built the offense around his TALENT, and called plays as such. Is this that difficult to understand. Clays reply. "dumb ass, shut up, die in a fire, **** you, you dont know shit, PFF SAYS..."

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Will there be bubble screns?! Will there?! Ohh, I'm getting moist!/Lil Chiefy
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Do you know who threw the most screens and quick passes in the nfl last year? TOM BRADY, do you hear anyone bitching about it?

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Actually Alex Smith has physical talent which is why he was drafted high.

his problem has been in the brain

some people think that Harbaugh fixed that

I doubt it

He never had a problem in the brain. He is one of if not the smartest qbs in the NFL, and that actually, is a part of the problem, he over thinks, instead of just reacting.

Originally Posted by milkman

I think it's petty clear that Alex Smith does have more in the way of intangibles than Cassel, but I'm not sure that it's confidence and leadership.

He's mentally tough and resilient, and that will earn respect, but I don't think it's enough to put a team in the SB.

Agree here, he is going to need the guys around them to carry him there. But he wont be the reason they WONT make it. He just isnt the difference.

Originally Posted by Rausch

Alex has twice the Arm Ca$$hole had. HE CAN zing it in there.

He's reluctant. He trusts his brain more than his talent.

He'll hold the ball FOR-EH-VER while deciding where to go with hit. He WILL progress through his reads (unlike Ca$$hole's "is Bowe open?...nope...CHECK DOWN!) and almost always take the highest percentage pass.

That pass most often being short, under 15 yards, and after 4 or 5 seconds.

It's not that he can't step up it's that he's so timid due to YEARS of completely sucking that he's fully leashed for life.

It's like trying to rip the armor off of Vader...

If he would run more often, he could be a top 15 qb, he has to take less sacks. His tentative approach, although in his last two games, he started to trust his receivers more, and learned to throw them open. But, if its not there if he would stop standing there like a deer in headlights, he could reach the pretty good level. I wonder if Andy Will encourage that. He does have to learn to throw it away though.

Most of these points are spot on. Proud of you guys.