Chiefs With Lynn Swann as pitchman, NFL seeks support of 40-year-old blackout rule - Page 5

Tombstone RJ · 06-30-2014, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

The blackout rule is crap. Lower the overall percentage of tickets sold to 60-70% if you want to blackout a game, but those paying the league for NFL Ticket should be able to still watch. Greed at its finest.

And I would love to know how much Swann is getting paid to shill this ridiculousness.

It is crap. When a team sucks, you can't punish the fans for not showing up to pay for a crappy product. That is all on ownership/management. With todays NFL parity, there is simply no excuse for a team to go 2-14 or whatever. None.

The NFL has some creepy crap that makes no sense. How can the NFL be a not-for-profit institution when that is all they care about? How come it gets an antitrust exemption?

**BigMeatballDave** · 06-30-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

It is crap. When a team sucks, you can't punish the fans for not showing up to pay for a crappy product. That is all on ownership/management. With todays NFL parity, there is simply no excuse for a team to go 2-14 or whatever. None.

Management cannot control shitty QB play and turnovers. That is how a team loses 14 games.

**Rain Man** · 06-30-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Management cannot control shitty QB play and turnovers. That is how a team loses 14 games.

What if management signs Matt Cassel?

Tombstone RJ · 06-30-2014, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Management cannot control shitty QB play and turnovers. That is how a team loses 14 games.

Yes but who drafted or brought in that shitty QB? Who built that team?

**BigMeatballDave** · 06-30-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Yes but who drafted or brought in that shitty QB? Who built that team?

Well, for the Chiefs, it's easy to see where the blame lies.

For Houston, that was a fluke. Schaub had been pretty good previously.

WhiteWhale · 06-30-2014, 02:18 PM

Big surprise.

People in modern society would rather stay at home and watch (insert anything that used to be done IRL) on TV than to get out and experience life. I can't believe people actually prefer sitting on their ass and watching the game on TV than experiencing the game first hand.

I think games are overpriced... but the market is what the market is. I don't think watching games on TV is anything remotely close to being there in person, but it doesn't surprise me that the generation raised by TV sets would overwhelmingly feel this way.

**Bugeater** · 06-30-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Big surprise.

People in modern society would rather stay at home and watch (insert anything that used to be done IRL) on TV than to get out and experience life. I can't believe people actually prefer sitting on their ass and watching the game on TV than experiencing the game first hand.

I think games are overpriced... but the market is what the market is. I don't think watching games on TV is anything remotely close to being there in person, but it doesn't surprise me that the generation raised by TV sets would overwhelmingly feel this way.

Better views of the action/replays, better and cheaper food/beer, a more comfortable chair, being able to flip to another game at commercial breaks, no lines at the bathroom, no drunk belligerent idiots right next to you, if you're a smoker you don't have to hike all the way up the 300 level mezzanine to smoke, at the end of the game you can watch another game instead of fighting traffic...how many more reasons would you like?

**Rausch** · 06-30-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacon Cheeseburger

Better views of the action/replays, better and cheaper food/beer, a more comfortable chair, being able to flip to another game at commercial breaks, no lines at the bathroom, no drunk belligerent idiots right next to you, if you're a smoker you don't have to hike all the way up the 300 level mezzanine to smoke, at the end of the game you can watch another game instead of fighting traffic...how many more reasons would you like?

I can get a hummer at half time and not get arrested...

**Bearcat** · 06-30-2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacon Cheeseburger

Better views of the action/replays, better and cheaper food/beer, a more comfortable chair, being able to flip to another game at commercial breaks, no lines at the bathroom, no drunk belligerent idiots right next to you, if you're a smoker you don't have to hike all the way up the 300 level mezzanine to smoke, at the end of the game you can watch another game instead of fighting traffic...how many more reasons would you like?

Hey, you must be one of those Gen Xers who are obsessed with technology and spend all their time staring at a screen... oh, wait.

**Bowser** · 06-30-2014, 02:28 PM

If the Chiefs were a perennial winner and post season threat, this wouldn't even be an issue here. I rarely hear Patriots fans bitching about the price of their tickets to the point of not wanting to go to games. I'm sure they DO bitch about it, but to those fans it's worth spending 150 bucks a ticket for nosebleed seats when they know their team is always in the race to win it all.

I would not shame ANY fan of the Chiefs for not wanting to buy fool's gold year after year just to watch them go belly up, yet again. Plus, NFL games aren't just expensive, they're time consuming. Your entire Sunday when you go to a game a accounted for, and even a good chunk of your Saturday if the plan is to get a proper tailgate going. If you hang at home, you don't get the experience, but you get a chunk of your weekend back. But it's cool if the NFL wants to punish the average fan for not wanting to support a sub par team? Yeah, sure.

**Rausch** · 06-30-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

If the Chiefs were a perennial winner and post season threat, this wouldn't even be an issue here. I rarely hear Patriots fans bitching about the price of their tickets to the point of not wanting to go to games.

Well, **** 'em.

I'd gladly trade them "hardships."

**Bearcat** · 06-30-2014, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

If the Chiefs were a perennial winner and post season threat, this wouldn't even be an issue here. I rarely hear Patriots fans bitching about the price of their tickets to the point of not wanting to go to games. I'm sure they DO bitch about it, but to those fans it's worth spending 150 bucks a ticket for nosebleed seats when they know their team is always in the race to win it all.

I would not shame ANY fan of the Chiefs for not wanting to buy fool's gold year after year just to watch them go belly up, yet again. Plus, NFL games aren't just expensive, they're time consuming. Your entire Sunday when you go to a game a accounted for, and even a good chunk of your Saturday if the plan is to get a proper tailgate going. If you hang at home, you don't get the experience, but you get a chunk of your weekend back. But it's cool if the NFL wants to punish the average fan for not wanting to support a sub par team? Yeah, sure.

Yeah, there's really no question whether fans want to sit at home or go to the games, considering how many show up these days after so many years of crap, and how interest & secondary market prices jump at any sign of hope.

I don't want to sit at home and watch every weekend. I'd buy season tickets in a heartbeat if it was worth the time and money.... but, watching at home clearly makes the most sense, especially when the best part of going to Arrowhead is usually tailgating.

**Rausch** · 06-30-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

I don't want to sit at home and watch every weekend. I'd buy season tickets in a heartbeat if it was worth the time and money.... but, watching at home clearly makes the most sense, especially when the best part of going to Arrowhead is usually tailgating.

I want to go as well.

What I won't do is drive 3 hours (in good weather) plus pay for parking and tickets, take two days off of work (I don't get off until 7:30 AM), all after watching my team completely $#it their pants in both the draft and the offseason and HOPE one of the 6 games they win all year will be the one I go to.

**** that.

That time is over...

**Bearcat** · 06-30-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I want to go as well.

What I won't do is drive 3 hours (in good weather) plus pay for parking and tickets, take two days off of work (I don't get off until 7:30 AM), all after watching my team completely $#it their pants in both the draft and the offseason and HOPE one of the 6 games they win all year will be the one I go to.

**** that.

That time is over...

Yep... I swore it off after the home opener against Buffalo a few years ago, and can't believe it took that long. And every time I've thought about going to a game since, they've proven that staying home was a good decision, so I probably won't even think twice about it this season.

**The Franchise** · 06-30-2014, 04:12 PM

I'm still hoping that DirecTV will someday offer team passes to Sunday Ticket. All I want is just the Chiefs games....let me buy just those.

06-30-2014, 02:18 PM	#6
WhiteWhale Bring it on Ahab! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Doo-Dah Casino cash: $10015152	Big surprise. People in modern society would rather stay at home and watch (insert anything that used to be done IRL) on TV than to get out and experience life. I can't believe people actually prefer sitting on their ass and watching the game on TV than experiencing the game first hand. I think games are overpriced... but the market is what the market is. I don't think watching games on TV is anything remotely close to being there in person, but it doesn't surprise me that the generation raised by TV sets would overwhelmingly feel this way.
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06-30-2014, 02:28 PM	#10
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3271616	If the Chiefs were a perennial winner and post season threat, this wouldn't even be an issue here. I rarely hear Patriots fans bitching about the price of their tickets to the point of not wanting to go to games. I'm sure they DO bitch about it, but to those fans it's worth spending 150 bucks a ticket for nosebleed seats when they know their team is always in the race to win it all. I would not shame ANY fan of the Chiefs for not wanting to buy fool's gold year after year just to watch them go belly up, yet again. Plus, NFL games aren't just expensive, they're time consuming. Your entire Sunday when you go to a game a accounted for, and even a good chunk of your Saturday if the plan is to get a proper tailgate going. If you hang at home, you don't get the experience, but you get a chunk of your weekend back. But it's cool if the NFL wants to punish the average fan for not wanting to support a sub par team? Yeah, sure.
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06-30-2014, 04:12 PM	#15
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2905047	I'm still hoping that DirecTV will someday offer team passes to Sunday Ticket. All I want is just the Chiefs games....let me buy just those.
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