Commisioner finds Pats Guilty - Page 14

percysnow · 05:21 PM

will give them chance to plea case fri. . see below Donger's post

**Dylan** · 09-12-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

As, I posted earlier, let's wait to get both sides of this story because some things are not adding up. There's two sides to a story. There's the seen and the unseen. There's been antics going on between the Jets and Pats. Some things seem illogical. This is the problem I have: just because the Commissioner says something he may not have all the material facts either.

Take a look at this.

Jets Guilty? Pats to be Vindicated? Stay Tuned.
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NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come

The NFL has determined that the Patriots violated league rules Sunday when they videotaped Jets coaches sending signals to players on the field during New England's 38-14 victory at Giants Stadium, ESPN and the NFL Network reported last night. Before the league issues any sanctions - which could be severe, including suspensions, fines, and the loss of draft picks - Patriots coach Bill Belichick will present his team's explanation to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, likely by the end of the week over the telephone.

Jets Guilty? Pats to be Vindicated? Stay Tuned.

While it looks very ominous in New England for the Pats today, the Pats side of the story in "spygate" New York is yet to be told, and that story may have the NFL looking back at the Jets for their pre-game antics and activites in this bitter rivalry. Consider that just days before the game, the Jets brought into camp the ex-Pats receiver Caldwell.

Why, do you ask if the Jets already had a full complement of receivers and had no intention of signing him?

Well, sources in New England say it was to get the Pats' offensive playbook and the verbal signals Brady uses during the game so that the Jets would know what play was coming - this could explain why the Pats were operating on a different radio frequency between Brady and the Offensive coordinator - they were fearful the Jets were "tapping the wires" of Brady's helmet, and the Jets knew the plays from Caldwell's input so they could defense any Pats play with ease. Regarding the filming of the defensive coaches of the Jets - yes it happened, but not for the reasons everyone thinks.

The Pats were and are accumulating proof to be presented to the NFL on Friday that the Jets set about a scheme to steal the offensive signals electronically from the Pats and to set the defensive scheme based on this --- the Pats crossed the Jets up by going on a different frequency (how else did the Jets know the Pats were on a different frequency if they weren't trying to listen in?).

The Pats were filming the Jets defensive calls so that AFTER the game (not during), they could prove the Jets' tampering to the NFL. We should all wait til Friday to see how this all turns out, but be prepared for a shocking twist to this intiguing story. The Pats did not, and do not need to cheat, and I suspect they did not cheat on Sunday to whip the Jets. Had they been stealing defensive signals from the Jets, you would have seen a lot of audibles at the line by Brady --- and if you review the game tape (as I did ) this was not the case on Sunday.

I do not believe that Mr Kraft would condone this type of action, and Coach B would not risk losing his reputation (and maybe his job) by doing something so blatant and embarrassing to Mr Kraft and the team ...and Brady would NEVER stoop to this type of behavior.

No, ladies and gentlemen, let's just wait to see how this saga unfolds on Friday. If I am wrong, I will go public with a statement of apology to all Jets fans and FanNation, and release my private note to Mr Kraft sent last night, but please save your shots til we hear the other side of this story

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/58476

Interesting 'eh?
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BigChiefFan · 09-12-2007, 02:27 PM

If this is true Bellichek is a disgrace.

Brock · 09-12-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

If this is true Bellichek is a disgrace.

If he's a disgrace, then please, let the Chiefs become disgraceful.

Amnorix · 09-12-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

If he's a disgrace, then please, let the Chiefs become disgraceful.

**Donger** · 09-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Has Peter King chimed in on this yet?

Valiant · 09-12-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

I'd honestly give up a 2 this year and a 2 next year for it all to stop right now, and for someone to give BB a great big "dope slap".

I'd give a 2 for the followign year for the Broncos OLine to give Mangini a group cut block for being a backstabbing MF'er too.

How is it Mangini's fault??? His former boss and friend tried to **** him over personally... Mangini knew he had done it to other teams, but probably didn't think BB would do it to him being a former coworker and friend.. What does that say about BB???

Sorry but your homer glasses are extra thick on this...

Valiant · 09-12-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Assholian, perhaps...?

He left the team and flipped us the bird as he went. He tried to steal our coaches, and actually got one (maybe 2). He went to a team in our own division. And not just the Bills. But the freaking Jets.

Let me put it this way -- if Al Saunders had left Dick Vermeil to go coach the Raiders or Broncos (whoever you guys hate the most), and took a coach or two with him, and signed several of your former players, and were strongly suspected of interfering with contract talks with a free agent / franchised player, and then this happened, would Al be on your Xmas card list?

Thought not...

Noen of this, of course, excuses Bill "I was a teenaged genius" Belichick from being so DUMB as to contineu this after he was nearly caught at it last year, and after getting a league-wide warning on this stuff.

All coaches do this when they leave... They take coaches they know and like and promote them on their new team..

You crying about it is just spilled milk... You are acting like this is not done every single time a coach leaves for a new team..

Amnorix · 09-12-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

All coaches do this when they leave... They take coaches they know and like and promote them on their new team..

You crying about it is just spilled milk... You are acting like this is not done every single time a coach leaves for a new team..

Not Romeo Crennel, so no, not "every single time".

Valiant · 09-12-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Well, I'm about burnt on this topic. I think I've more than adequately proved, again, that I don't turn tail and run when things don't go so well for my boys.

What a fiasco. And leading up to a HUGE game too. *sigh*

Its not really a fiasco for you as a fan, you still have a playoff bound team that can compete for a superbowl.. And then you have the Chiefs...

Mile High Mania · 09-12-2007, 02:40 PM

I'm just glad to see another team that is the 'darling of the league' in trouble...

Valiant · 09-12-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Not Romeo Crennel, so no, not "every single time".

Who wants to go to Cleveland.. And with didn't the O and D coordinator leave at the same time opening up new positions for those guys to take over??

BigChiefFan · 09-12-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

If he's a disgrace, then please, let the Chiefs become disgraceful.

Yes, please let's sign up to be known as douche-bag cheaters. His championships don't mean shit if he had to cheat to ****ing win-that's means he couldn't win on his own, in other words would have LOST. Again, this is disgraceful.

pikesome · 09-12-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Has Peter King chimed in on this yet?

He's at a Starbucks under suicide watch.

Brock · 09-12-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Yes, please let's sign up to be known as douche-bag cheaters. His championships don't mean shit if he had to cheat to ****ing win-that's means he couldn't win on his own, in other words would have LOST. Again, this is disgraceful.

Yeah, it's a LOT better being known as the team that hasn't accomplished shit in 35 years.

Mecca · 09-12-2007, 02:46 PM

Still the class of the league, in the grand scheme of things it's not gonna matter on their road to the Superbowl....

I just think it's great how people are latching on to this to try to say "oh the Pat's cheated to win all their Bowl's" or act like they aren't good, anything to try to take away some dominance to make us feel better about our mediocre team.

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