News Minnesota man who killed teens in break-in charged with murder - Page 26

DTLB58 · 04-25-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Good decision by her to go downstairs after her boyfriend was shot.

And 10 minutes later. Thought that was strange.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-25-2014, 08:00 AM

What was he watching that he couldn't be bothered to call it in until morning?

**notorious** · 04-25-2014, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

What was he watching that he couldn't be bothered to call it in until morning?

He is a huge Tardashian fan.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-25-2014, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

He is a huge Tardashian fan.

I debated if it was A Christmas Story on TBS or Downtown Abbey.

Gravedigger · 04-25-2014, 08:12 AM

You wouldn't think that a break in "protection" killing could be premeditated but the fact that he recorded it suggests otherwise. I think he knew exactly what he was going to do if they broke in, he was just waiting with a gun and a recording device for it to take shape.

ForeverChiefs58 · 04-25-2014, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

What was he watching that he couldn't be bothered to call it in until morning?

I'm sure if he could just explain he was watching Mark Castle start at QB, the jury would just shrug and say "well hell, it's a wonder he didn't kill more."

**Predarat** · 04-25-2014, 08:21 AM

There was a store owner/manager case in Oklahoma similar to the one in Kansas. Prosecutors need to be very very careful about charging people in these situations too harshly. Its not like they woke up in the morning and decided to execute someone in cold blood just to kill someone. They were going about their daily business, job, being at home, whatever the case may be and these criminals suddenly come in and commit an armed robbery or home invasion. In the heat of the moment they may have went to far on adrenaline or maybe if the criminals were still alive, even if disabled they still could have felt threatened. No telling if the criminals had another gun and were alive enough to shoot the victim. Some of these prosecutors make it seem like they were like "Hey I am going to go to work and execute someone today" and that is clearly not the case. Hell if the prosecutors, police, and justice system was doing its job and keeping real criminals off the street and rehabbing them properly before they let them out again these people may have not been in that situation to begin with.

Jimmya · 04-25-2014, 10:33 AM

I think he went over board, but anyone dumb enough to break into a house better understand that there are consequences.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-25-2014, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya

I think he went over board, but anyone dumb enough to break into a house better understand that there are consequences.

Like what are we talking about?

No premium cable channels?
Poorly stocked fridge and pantry?
Liquor cabinet almost dry?
Pergo instead of real wood?
Faint smell of cat piss in some areas?
They only spring for that cheap shit sandpaper tp?
DSL?

Prison Bitch · 04-25-2014, 11:13 AM

Hopefully the families of the victims just happen to bump into him at night walking around somewhere. (A place with no cameras and no witnesses). And they just....OOPS!....happen to shoot his ass in a "Stand Your Ground" type of deal. Where nobody can disprove the shooter's account of being attacked by the old goon.

And hopefully they put the barrel right under his chin. For a nice, clean shot.

Jimmya · 04-25-2014, 11:18 AM

All I'm saying is nobody knows what psycho is in the house, or if the house is full of gang members..... Moral of the story is to not break into someone's house.

Pablo · 04-25-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya

All I'm saying is nobody knows what psycho is in the house, or if the house is full of gang members..... Moral of the story is to not break into someone's house.

No shit.

I don't think you'll see any arguments in this thread stating that you should break into someone else's house or that it is acceptable. You just aren't allowed to become an unhinged psycho and "finish off" teenagers because they broke in.

Garcia Bronco · 04-25-2014, 11:19 AM

I was originally okay with this guy walking, but now..I think he's got to do some time.

Al Bundy · 04-25-2014, 11:19 AM

The girl was very clearly a hardcore druggy, but she didn't deserve to die like that. He needs to be convicted of murder

ghak99 · 04-25-2014, 11:50 AM

The longer I think about this the more I think I'm now ok with "anything goes" the minute an intruder enters a home. Leave any decisions made from that point forward up to the homeowner's discretion and be done with it.

He's obviously not the sharpest tool in the box, but I could not care lass about him in this case. The "intruders should expect death" message needs to be sent and I no longer care how it happens.

04-25-2014, 08:00 AM	#2
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04-25-2014, 08:12 AM	#5
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $7233101	You wouldn't think that a break in "protection" killing could be premeditated but the fact that he recorded it suggests otherwise. I think he knew exactly what he was going to do if they broke in, he was just waiting with a gun and a recording device for it to take shape.
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04-25-2014, 08:21 AM	#7
Predarat Run Chiefs fans, run!! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Casino cash: $9973863	There was a store owner/manager case in Oklahoma similar to the one in Kansas. Prosecutors need to be very very careful about charging people in these situations too harshly. Its not like they woke up in the morning and decided to execute someone in cold blood just to kill someone. They were going about their daily business, job, being at home, whatever the case may be and these criminals suddenly come in and commit an armed robbery or home invasion. In the heat of the moment they may have went to far on adrenaline or maybe if the criminals were still alive, even if disabled they still could have felt threatened. No telling if the criminals had another gun and were alive enough to shoot the victim. Some of these prosecutors make it seem like they were like "Hey I am going to go to work and execute someone today" and that is clearly not the case. Hell if the prosecutors, police, and justice system was doing its job and keeping real criminals off the street and rehabbing them properly before they let them out again these people may have not been in that situation to begin with.
Posts: 10,776

04-25-2014, 10:33 AM	#8
Jimmya Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10024530	I think he went over board, but anyone dumb enough to break into a house better understand that there are consequences.
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04-25-2014, 11:13 AM	#10
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	Hopefully the families of the victims just happen to bump into him at night walking around somewhere. (A place with no cameras and no witnesses). And they just....OOPS!....happen to shoot his ass in a "Stand Your Ground" type of deal. Where nobody can disprove the shooter's account of being attacked by the old goon. And hopefully they put the barrel right under his chin. For a nice, clean shot.
Posts: 87,025

04-25-2014, 11:18 AM	#11
Jimmya Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10024530	All I'm saying is nobody knows what psycho is in the house, or if the house is full of gang members..... Moral of the story is to not break into someone's house.
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04-25-2014, 11:19 AM	#13
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $5153136	I was originally okay with this guy walking, but now..I think he's got to do some time.
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04-25-2014, 11:19 AM	#14
Al Bundy Damnit Peg Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5331831	The girl was very clearly a hardcore druggy, but she didn't deserve to die like that. He needs to be convicted of murder
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04-25-2014, 11:50 AM	#15
ghak99 MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $1762250	The longer I think about this the more I think I'm now ok with "anything goes" the minute an intruder enters a home. Leave any decisions made from that point forward up to the homeowner's discretion and be done with it. He's obviously not the sharpest tool in the box, but I could not care lass about him in this case. The "intruders should expect death" message needs to be sent and I no longer care how it happens.
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