Jarrad Page - Page 4

B_Ambuehl · 08-24-2007, 02:14 PM

Isn't a starting caliber safety. He can come in on dime and play centerfield but he doesn't have the abilty to move laterally, accelerate and make tackles that you need out of a starting caliber safety. This guy wiffs anytime he gets near a running back. Absolutely pathetic.

Hydrae · 08-26-2007, 02:46 PM

I am a big Gunther fan and was pleased when we brought him back to his best position, as DC. That said, I am starting to find my feet scraping the ground as I contemplate jumping off his bandwagon.

I am seeing the same thing I did in the late 90's when Gun was DC. The defense is so concerned with trying to strip the ball, the ball carrier gains another 5 yards. It drives me nuts. Tackle the damn guy with the ball, that is job #1. Turnovers are great but not worth the extra yards being given up in the meantime.

B_Ambuehl · 08-27-2007, 02:59 PM

Yeah tackling hasn't looked that great

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 08-27-2007, 03:04 PM

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let's move him to corner

I keep trying to forget that nonsense and no one will let me.

King_Chief_Fan · 08-27-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

I am a big Gunther fan and was pleased when we brought him back to his best position, as DC. That said, I am starting to find my feet scraping the ground as I contemplate jumping off his bandwagon.

I am seeing the same thing I did in the late 90's when Gun was DC. The defense is so concerned with trying to strip the ball, the ball carrier gains another 5 yards. It drives me nuts. Tackle the damn guy with the ball, that is job #1. Turnovers are great but not worth the extra yards being given up in the meantime.

Me thinks the Herm will not put up with that for very long if Herm is the D master eveyone thinks he is. If Herm can't manage that change...

kcchiefsus · 08-27-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

There's a difference. The physical skills are there with Croyle. His mind just needs to improve. Page is lacking more on the physical end which can't be taught.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Page is not lacking physical skills. His inability to tackle has nothing to do with lacking physical skills.

I agree. I have gathered from most of your posts that you don't know shit.

RustShack · 08-27-2007, 03:49 PM

Page is more of a ball hawking safety and Pollard is the hard hitter.

B_Ambuehl · 08-27-2007, 03:58 PM

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You have no clue what you are talking about. Page is not lacking physical skills. His inability to tackle has nothing to do with lacking physical skills

Maybe if he could move better laterally he'd be a better tackler? That's something he appears to lack and, although he's probably fast enough as far as straight line 40 yard speed, he's not very quick.

kcchiefsus · 08-27-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Maybe if he could move better laterally he'd be a better tackler? That's something he appears to lack and, although he's probably fast enough as far as straight line 40 yard speed, he's not very quick.

Again, anybody who says the guy can't move laterally doesn't know what they are talking about.

How many times did Page come over at the last minute on a deep throw and deflect a pass? Quite a few.

And reports out of camp were that Page was a ballhawk and was shutting down Tony Gonzalez quite often.

KC Joyner listed Page as one of his most underrated safeties stating that Page had one of the best coverage statistics for coverage safeties.

B_Ambuehl · 08-27-2007, 09:34 PM

He can play centerfield but that doesn't require much movement. He struggles when he comes up and then has to change direction to make a play. Just go back and watch the tape from the preseason games. There are plenty of examples just from those games.

kcfanXIII · 08-27-2007, 10:09 PM

still an upgrade. tell me, if we have a bone crushing strong safety, in a cover two, wouldn't you want a free safety that is good in coverage more than coming up to stuff the run? i mean, i think thats more pollard's job.

B_Ambuehl · 08-28-2007, 02:01 PM

They both need to be able to cover ground and stop the run. Regardless of what position you play as a defender you gotta be able to tackle people.

Chiefnj2 · 08-28-2007, 02:09 PM

His scouting report was true:

He is not a consistently aggressive player and tends to wait for teammates to make tackles vs. the run. When he stays focused and under control, he can break down and tackle well in space and can make hard/physical tackles. The trouble is that more often than not, he stops his feet before contact, ends up lunging and misses more tackles than a safety should.

08-24-2007, 02:14 PM
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	Jarrad Page Isn't a starting caliber safety. He can come in on dime and play centerfield but he doesn't have the abilty to move laterally, accelerate and make tackles that you need out of a starting caliber safety. This guy wiffs anytime he gets near a running back. Absolutely pathetic.
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08-26-2007, 02:46 PM	#46
Hydrae Sandbox: Leander Lasercats Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin, Tx Casino cash: $2087000	I am a big Gunther fan and was pleased when we brought him back to his best position, as DC. That said, I am starting to find my feet scraping the ground as I contemplate jumping off his bandwagon. I am seeing the same thing I did in the late 90's when Gun was DC. The defense is so concerned with trying to strip the ball, the ball carrier gains another 5 yards. It drives me nuts. Tackle the damn guy with the ball, that is job #1. Turnovers are great but not worth the extra yards being given up in the meantime.
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08-27-2007, 02:59 PM	#47
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	Yeah tackling hasn't looked that great __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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08-27-2007, 03:49 PM	#51
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4596954	Page is more of a ball hawking safety and Pollard is the hard hitter. __________________
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08-27-2007, 09:34 PM	#54
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	He can play centerfield but that doesn't require much movement. He struggles when he comes up and then has to change direction to make a play. Just go back and watch the tape from the preseason games. There are plenty of examples just from those games. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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08-27-2007, 10:09 PM	#55
kcfanXIII Ride on! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Galaxy far far away Casino cash: $10013172	still an upgrade. tell me, if we have a bone crushing strong safety, in a cover two, wouldn't you want a free safety that is good in coverage more than coming up to stuff the run? i mean, i think thats more pollard's job. __________________ Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed, overcomes the fear of death.
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08-28-2007, 02:01 PM	#56
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	They both need to be able to cover ground and stop the run. Regardless of what position you play as a defender you gotta be able to tackle people. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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08-28-2007, 02:09 PM	#57
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7833688	His scouting report was true: He is not a consistently aggressive player and tends to wait for teammates to make tackles vs. the run. When he stays focused and under control, he can break down and tackle well in space and can make hard/physical tackles. The trouble is that more often than not, he stops his feet before contact, ends up lunging and misses more tackles than a safety should. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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