The Brushback on Herm Edwards - Page 4

**gblowfish** · 01-18-2006, 11:02 AM

A friend of mine at Fox Sports pointed me to this website, which is his favorite sports parody site. It's called "The Brushback" and the lead story today is about Herm Edward promising to do for the Chiefs what he did for the Jets...win 47% of his games.

Apologies if this has been posted before. I did a search (to make Skip happy)...

Link is here: http://www.thebrushback.com/hermedwards_full.htm

Brock · 01-18-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

I do think he had enough talent in NY to win and didn't.

To win what? A Super Bowl? Riiight.

htismaqe · 01-18-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Really ? I guess when you ask a question with a ? mark it means nothing.

Let me break this down for you...... I was asking a question, OK .

FTR, no I was not on the Herm Edwards ( for sensitve folks ) bandwagon, I think he was laid back ( muck like DV ) and managed the clock poorly. I do think he had enough talent in NY to win and didn't.

Grant it, he is still young at coaching ( with only having 5 years HC ) and maybe he can correct those issues.

So it wasn't a rhetorical question?

You actually asked that question because you were labelling Marty a WCO coach without knowing, or bothering to find out, what kind of offense he runs in San Diego?

**Rausch** · 01-18-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Really ? I guess when you ask a question with a ? mark it means nothing.

Let me break this down for you...... I was asking a question, OK .

FTR, no I was not on the Herm Edwards ( for sensitve folks ) bandwagon, I think he was laid back ( muck like DV ) and managed the clock poorly. I do think he had enough talent in NY to win and didn't.

Grant it, he is still young at coaching ( with only having 5 years HC ) and maybe he can correct those issues.

Herm's coaching style is similar to DV's, yes.

Herm's personality is NOTHING like DV's. Herm will ****ing rip you a new a$$hole, as a player.

This is the main reason I liked the hire: he doesn't put up with stupid bull$#it.

DV didn't get it done here, I understand and agree, but I loved the way DV delegated authority. He allowed his coordinators to coordinate without sticking his fingers in everthing. I think that's the best thing a coach can do.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-18-2006, 12:42 PM

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Your not 100% correct. Herm has no concept of clock management.

Hey Roy, how many Jets games have you watched the past 5 years? Do you even have the Sunday Ticket? If Edwards was so bad at clock management and such a poor coach, how did he get his teams to the playoffs 3 out of 4 season residing in the SAME DIVISION as the Patriots? Enlighten us all, please. Your "wisdom" is just overwhelming.

Braincase · 01-18-2006, 12:43 PM

What was his winning percentage prior to this season, where he lost two starting QB's?

**Rausch** · 01-18-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by foxman

Thats kind of a BS statement. Almost every replacement coach this season has been a coordinator and we can not know how that's going to pan out. Sure we can all debate that we needed a proven commodity yadda yadda, I challenge that. Why did we need an experianced coach, because we have a veteran team? Thats a weak reason IMO.

If we would have hired a guy who has an outstanding record as a coordinator, fine.

Sanders would have fit the bill.

No one else did.

The Pats D coordinator has only 1 year of experience and didn't do all that well.

WTF did the Packers new HC do?

There were a TON of reaches this year.

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Originally Posted by foxman

Threads like this allow us to bitch and complain. I don't think anyone expects to change anything.....so as you say, GET OVER IT.

You'll be surprised how quick 4 years passes.

JR is in a transition period right now and IMHO the only reason Carl was retained was due to his experience and time with the KC organization.

I fully expect JR to be much more hands on as an owner. And no matter the next GM he'll be light years from Peterson. Has to be.

Good or bad...

ROYC75 · 01-18-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

So it wasn't a rhetorical question?

You actually asked that question because you were labelling Marty a WCO coach without knowing, or bothering to find out, what kind of offense he runs in San Diego?

I asked . Prior to Mike Hiemerdinger ( sp ) the Jets had Hackett, right ? WCO, right ? Correct me if I am wrong , but is Hiemerdinger ( spelling ? ) the same ?

Don't most head coaches usually stay with what they know, not always, but usually.

But in the future, I will be clear not to ask questions, OK. You seem to miss those.

Brock · 01-18-2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

What was his winning percentage prior to this season, where he lost two starting QB's?

.546

foxman · 01-18-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's just plain stupid. He hired a coach, Dick Curl, as his clock manager. He trusted him, just as a head coach should do. Some here think it bit him in the ass. I disagree.

Blame anyone you want, it doesnt happen in New England, Carolina or Seattle just to name a few quality teams that don't have a problem with the clock. That is Herms and Herms alone.

I am not anti Herm Edwards. There are things I don't like about the hire. I don't like that we didnt spend enough time IMO talking to coordinators or even conteplating one. I don't like that we gave a draft pick for a guy that would have been fired and arguably might not have been our best option to begin with. I don't like the fact that he's a Carl guy that apparently is Vermielesk which I was never a big fan of to begin with. I want someone that kicks these guys in the ass. Now go ahead and fire away that that hasnt helped us on defense, but there is no denying that all of the remaining coaches in the playoffs command respect from their players with crying every damn time a camera is in their face....GOD I hated that about Vermeil. Maybe Herm can do that, but we shall see.

**Rausch** · 01-18-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

I asked . Prior to Mike Hiemerdinger ( sp ) the Jets had Hackett, right ? WCO, right ? Correct me if I am wrong , but is Hiemerdinger ( spelling ? ) the same ?

Mike Heimerdinger ran the Titans offense for years.

Are you saying they're a WCO?

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Don't most head coaches usually stay with what they know, not always, but usually.

Most OFFENSIVE MINDED HC's do, yes.

Marty was not an offensive coach. He's used a smashmouth offense, WCO, and now Coryell offense.

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

But in the future, I will be clear not to ask questions, OK. You seem to miss those.

Why ask when you can google?...

ROYC75 · 01-18-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Hey Roy, how many Jets games have you watched the past 5 years? Do you even have the Sunday Ticket? If Edwards was so bad at clock management and such a poor coach, how did he get his teams to the playoffs 3 out of 4 season residing in the SAME DIVISION as the Patriots? Enlighten us all, please. Your "wisdom" is just overwhelming.

Sunday Ticket ........ YES

Jets games ........ Yes at times.

Playoffs ........ easy schedules have alot to do with that. But a few years back when Miami , NE and Jets were good, he had to had some talent to play with. Many here will argue that he had no talent..... Miami and NE were good for a couple of losses.

Next question ? ( here it that question mark again Parker )

htismaqe · 01-18-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

I asked . Prior to Mike Hiemerdinger ( sp ) the Jets had Hackett, right ? WCO, right ? Correct me if I am wrong , but is Hiemerdinger ( spelling ? ) the same ?

Don't most head coaches usually stay with what they know, not always, but usually.

But in the future, I will be clear not to ask questions, OK. You seem to miss those.

Puh-lease. Spare us the victim card.

You know damn well that the responses you received were in response to:

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Originally Posted by Rausch

That's brilliant.

So Marty's a WCO guy because he traded for Montana and used Hackett?

That's pretty much what you're saying...

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Originally Posted by Roy

If the shoe fits .......

What is Marty and Cam doing in SD now ?

Nobody has problem with people asking questions when they sincerely don't know the answer. If you have a problem with the way your question was responded to, look no further than the manner in which the question was asked.

htismaqe · 01-18-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Why ask when you can google?...

Exactly why I responded the way I did.

htismaqe · 01-18-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Sunday Ticket ........ YES

Jets games ........ Yes at times.

Playoffs ........ easy schedules have alot to do with that. But a few years back when Miami , NE and Jets were good, he had to had some talent to play with. Many here will argue that he had no talent..... Miami and NE were good for a couple of losses.

Next question ? ( here it that question mark again Parker )

Next question is rhetorical.

Try again.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-18-2006, 01:00 PM

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Jets games ........ Yes at times.

What, 2 or 3 times in 5 years? So I'm assuming, since his record was so good for 3 of those years and they reached the playoffs each time, that you saw a winning football team. And in how many of those games you watched did Herm have a "clock management problem"? Please detail those experiences.

I think that people here read headline "Herm has no clock management skills" and assume that it's 100% true. And if that's the case, the guy has to be, without a doubt, the BEST FOOTBALL COACH OF ALL TIME! Why? Because it would be absolutely impossible for his teams to have played as well as they've played and reached the playoffs 3 times with such poor clock management skills.

This is getting to be re-goddamn-diculous.

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