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[VAChief]

Originally Posted by jd1020

The infamous "infield fly" ball landed 225 feet away from home plate. That's approximately 100 feet beyond the distance from home to 2nd base, about 33 yards, or about 23 yards beyond Cassels maximum range for an accurate pass. Previously, the longest IF fly ball that wasn't caught landed 178 feet away from home plate, can't confirm if it was called by an outfield umpire.

You are arguing whether the rule makes sense. He made a call anyone who has either played or watched baseball regularly have seen called a thousand times. It sucks because Holliday and Kosma both screwed up, it doesn't change whether the rule can be applied.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by VAChief

You are arguing whether the rule makes sense. He made a call anyone who has either played or watched baseball regularly have seen called a thousand times. It sucks because Holliday and Kosma both screwed up, it doesn't change whether the rule can be applied.

Go ahead and point me in the direction of those thousands of infield fly calls that have been made that deep in the outfield.

I'm sure you just watch/play more baseball than me, though. Which is why I'm the only one making a big deal out of that blatantly horrible call.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Go ahead and point me in the direction of those thousands of infield fly calls that have been made that deep in the outfield.

I'm sure you just watch/play more baseball than me, though. Which is why I'm the only one making a big deal out of that blatantly horrible call.

I think you need to read the rule again. If the situation arises and the infielder can make the play reasonably, its infield fly rule.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by whoman69

I think you need to read the rule again. If the situation arises and the infielder can make the play reasonably, its infield fly rule.

The rule requires a level of common sense, common sense that is apparently lacking in Cardinal homers on this board. The rule was put in place to protect the offensive team from the defensive team intentionally dropping the ball on a short fly ball and turning a double/triple play.

Nothing about that ball was worthy of the infield fly rule which is why you didn't see the ****ing infield umps raising their hands signaling for the infield fly rule. The 3rd base ump was getting back into position to make a call at 3rd on the chance of a throw and then he sticks his hand up when he sees the outfield ump ruling for infield fly, puts it back down, and then back up. He probably had a "wtf?" moment as well when he first put his hand up.

[VAChief]

Originally Posted by jd1020

The rule requires a level of common sense, common sense that is apparently lacking in Cardinal homers on this board. The rule was put in place to protect the offensive team from the defensive team intentionally dropping the ball on a short fly ball and turning a double/triple play.

Nothing about that ball was worthy of the infield fly rule which is why you didn't see the ****ing infield umps raising their hands signaling for the infield fly rule. The 3rd base ump was getting back into position to make a call at 3rd on the chance of a throw and then he sticks his hand up when he sees the outfield ump ruling for infield fly, puts it back down, and then back up. He probably had a "wtf?" moment as well when he first put his hand up.

I haven't seen anyone on here who said he should have made the call. He is justified in making it however based on what was happening at the time. It doesn't matter where the infielder is at the time. If he is under the ball, the umpire can in his judgement throw the arm up to signal it is likely a catch and runners move at their own risk.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by VAChief

I haven't seen anyone on here who said he should have made the call. He is justified in making it however based on what was happening at the time. It doesn't matter where the infielder is at the time. If he is under the ball, the umpire can in his judgement throw the arm up to signal it is likely a catch and runners move at their own risk.

That's one of my issues with it. Part of the rule is calling it in reasonable time. Calling it when its 20 feet from the ground doesn't give the runners the ability to make a decision based on the rule. As anybody that has run the bases knows, at that point in the decent of the ball you are half way and leaning one way or the other. The call came too late for a runner to make decision based off of "infield fly rule" instead of based off the actions happening in front of them.