If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by ceebz

Understood. However, Bray is Jeff George incarnate. Cannon for an arm, cat food for brains. Hoping that he'll all of a sudden "get it" as a pro, is just setting yourself up for more heartbreak.

or he's Marino, it's all up to him if he wants to take this opportunity seriously

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by patteeu

It's hard to avoid condescension when you're dealing with people who are throwing irrational tantrums like toddlers.

Yeah, pretty much. I am shocked and disappointed that so many "fans" are quitting on their team before OTAs even begin. Alex has had a 92 QBR over the last few years, and was ranked in the top 10 the last couple years... "oh nooooezzz!!! He's a volvo! Booohoooo!!!"

It's much better to pout and stomp your feet than to instead, just be men about it and show some support. Brilliant!

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Yeah, pretty much. I am shocked and disappointed that so many "fans" are quitting on their team before OTAs even begin. Alex has had a 92 QBR over the last few years, and was ranked in the top 10 the last couple years... "oh nooooezzz!!! He's a volvo! Booohoooo!!!"

It's much better to pout and stomp your feet than to instead, just be men about it and show some support. Brilliant!

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Yeah, pretty much. I am shocked and disappointed that so many "fans" are quitting on their team before OTAs even begin. Alex has had a 92 QBR over the last few years, and was ranked in the top 10 the last couple years... "oh nooooezzz!!! He's a volvo! Booohoooo!!!"

It's much better to pout and stomp your feet than to instead, just be men about it and show some support. Brilliant!

Go **** yourself and die in a fire. If following this team for 44 years and seeing them take the same ****ing approach for 30 ****ing years is quitting on them, you can kiss my ass. Get the **** out of here.
Alex Smith is just the fourth ****ing 9ers reject to get shipped to the Chiefs.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Go **** yourself and die in a fire. If following this team for 44 years and seeing them take the same ****ing approach for 30 ****ing years is quitting on them, you can kiss my ass. Get the **** out of here.
Alex Smith is just the fourth ****ing 9ers reject to get shipped to the Chiefs.

There is nothing wrong with hand-me-downs/ 9ers fans.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Go **** yourself and die in a fire. If following this team for 44 years and seeing them take the same ****ing approach for 30 ****ing years is quitting on them, you can kiss my ass. Get the **** out of here.
Alex Smith is just the fourth ****ing 9ers reject to get shipped to the Chiefs.

Not going anywhere. Now what ya gonna do, bigmouth crybaby?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Not going anywhere. Now what ya gonna do, bigmouth crybaby?

next this guy will be telling us all about how he has killed men in the army...

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Not going anywhere. Now what ya gonna do, bigmouth crybaby?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

next this guy will be telling us all about how he has killed men in the army...

No need for that. No need for any of this hostility. Seems silly that people can't maturely discuss differences of opinion without resorting to cowardly insults and threats. Also seems silly that people can't just find a shred of optimism towards their team. And if they can't? Then why are they not the ones to "**** off" and find some fishing or knitting forum to waste their opinions on? Can't get on board? Just GTFO then... as all of this pointless wailing is weak and pathetic.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Link?

Never mind. I know there's no link to that

Which trade compensation would you have preferred?

a) A 2013 2nd plus a 2014 4th that escalates to a 3rd if the Chiefs double their wins and go 4-12.

b) A 2013 2nd plus a 2014 3rd that escalates to a 2nd if the Chiefs go 8-8.

c) A 2013 2nd plus a 2014 2nd that escalates to a 1st if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

I assume that you and BossChief find (c) the most attractive because of wh
at you think it says about Andy Reid's aspirations for the 2014 season, right? You guys are real geniuses.

How about the fact that Schefter said no other team was willing to offer up 2 picks for Alex Myth?

How about a conditional 4th that turns into a first if we win a playoff game?

Nobody would be pissed.

Your post was just as ridiculous today as it was yesterday and everyone knows it

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

You all can't be serious with the argument being "he's a backup".

I can't blame Harbaugh for going with Kaep, I would too, but Alex Smith did not lose his job last year to Damon Huard here.

He's lightyears ahead of Cassel, so I don't see that comparison at all. If you've watched football the last 2 years, and remove the completed hatred over a player that hasn't played a snap here yet, you could probably see it too. He's not a slight upgrade over Cassel.

I wasn't thrilled initially with the trade, but what do I have to lose giving this at least a shot? The 2 guys I wanted here more than anyone I'm going to flame the **** out of before a real game is played?

I'm with Hootie. Last year was a ****ing atrocity. We didn't have a lead for 9 weeks, and the "let's suck for a draft pick" has resulted in us picking high in some of the worst drafts ever.

So, basically this team has been so piss poor over the last 6 years that you hope they get back to mediocre? That's understandable...I'd like to enjoy the games again, too.

Some 2003 magic would sure come in handy.

I'd also like to point out that you thought Cassel was a league MVP candidate in 2010...so it's not true that Alex Myth should be higher than him.

Shit, Cassels 2008 was as good or better than anything Alex Myth has ever done.

I too hope it works out, but the odds of it happening are slim to none.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

or he's Marino, it's all up to him if he wants to take this opportunity seriously

He doesn't have the ball placement that Marino did coming out. Additionally, his release and footwork is worse.


He's a poor man's Cutler. It will be interesting to see if he can take advantage of this opportunity.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

He doesn't have the ball placement that Marino did coming out. Additionally, his release and footwork is worse.


He's a poor man's Cutler. It will be interesting to see if he can take advantage of this opportunity.

when he set his feet he was a carbon copy when it came to ball placement, now he was inconsistent about it but every time I saw him when he was uniform with his footwork his placement was as good as any in college or the pros, and it didn't help him that his receivers had stone hands too.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Never noticed the guy jumping up and down on the right lol.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

when he set his feet he was a carbon copy when it came to ball placement, now he was inconsistent about it but every time I saw him when he was uniform with his footwork his placement was as good as any in college or the pros, and it didn't help him that his receivers had stone hands too.

I think his placement was inaccurate even when he had solid drops (which was pretty rare).

His game vs. Georgia IIRC was one that stood out to me in that regard.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How about the fact that Schefter said no other team was willing to offer up 2 picks for Alex Myth?

How about a conditional 4th that turns into a first if we win a playoff game?

Nobody would be pissed.

Your post was just as ridiculous today as it was yesterday and everyone knows it

You still won't answer my ridiculous question. Shocking.

None of us know what other offers were made to San Fran for Alex Smith, Schefter's report not withstanding. Furthermore, the Chiefs had no way of knowing what other offers we're out there and none of us know what the minimum San Fran would have taken was. All we know is that the Chiefs got the guy they targeted for a lower price than you were willing to pay for a guy who the most QB-starved teams in the NFL passed on twice in the draft.

But none of that has to do with the idiotic idea that a negotiated escalator on one of the picks somehow tells us what Andy Reid and John Dorsey hope to achieve or what they'll be satisfied with in 2014. My question actually has something to do with that incoherent theory, which is why neither you nor SNR will give an honest answer.

That's fine. I'm happy to leave it at that.