Who are the most disappointing free agent departures in Chiefs history? - Page 4

**Rain Man** · 09:22 AM

POLL IS NOW UP

* - Pre-free agency, but essentially the same result

Who are the most disappointing free agent departures in Chiefs history?

Start making a list, and I'll put up a poll when I get a good list of names. I know that I would probably forget some, and some other guys may have been cut and so weren't actually free-agent departures.

Off the top of my head, here's a starting list:

Greg Hill
Todd McNair
Todd Blackledge
Elvis Grbac
Tony Richardson
John Tait
Nick Lowery
Dave Szott
Gary Barbaro
Albert Lewis
Dale Carter
Kevin Ross
Anthony Davis
Greg Favors
Neil Smith
Chester McGlockton

Hammock Parties · 03-21-2006, 11:06 PM

What about Donnie Edwards? Man he was good for us, learned from the best in Derrick Thomas

**cdcox** · 03-21-2006, 11:08 PM

Knife jabbing out of my back and now I'll hate you forever: Grbac

True sense of loss that one of my favorites of all time left: Albert Lewis.

A big dick: Neil Smith

Hammock Parties · 03-21-2006, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita

Elvis leaving was a blessing. The reerun briefly screwed the Ravens, then left the league entirely.

As I said many, many times when he was still here, McGlockton is/was a complete waste of a roster spot. His best year as a Chief? 25 tackles and 2 sacks, ignoring the phony "90 pressures"

the Chiefs posted on their website. Sims is more productive, when the fat bastard is healthy.

I remember at the time i was extremely excited that Grbac left, but when i look back on it he had some really really good years for us. Only real flaw was that he wasnt really all that football smart and threw tons of interceptions

wolfpack0735 · 03-22-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

The loss of
Jan Stenerud
and
Willie Lanier

were also huge but those were before the advent of free agency.

stram trading curly culp to houston. lost one of the best DT`s the chiefs ever had. cant even remember who stram traded for.

ChiefsLV · 03-22-2006, 12:44 AM

My top three in order of impact:

Joe Horn - Became a playmaker at WR, one of the best in the league for a few years at a time when KC desparately needed a playmaker WR. How the hell we let this guy go, I still cannot fathom.

Donnie Edwards - Was in the prime of his career when we let him go and the defense was noticeably worse when he left. Some of us believed the "yeah he can tackle, but it's always four yards down field" propoganda. DV didn't value linebackers... big mistake, DV spent the better part of the next three seasons trying to upgrade the LB's.

Rich Gannon - We all knew he should have started in that playoff game. Then they let him go so there was no longer a QB controversy. Problem is, they let the wrong QB go. The killer was he went to the Raiders and got them to an NFC championship game and Superbowl. But the NFL gods didn't let us down in that Bucs-Raiders Superbowl. That's still my favorite superbowl ever and to think, I almost didn't watch it out of spite for the Raiders.

Demonpenz · 03-22-2006, 12:52 AM

reggie tounge

melbar · 03-22-2006, 01:54 AM

Edwards -especially after DT passed
Smith was one of the core members
Ditto T-Rich
HOw bout KEVIN ROSS!?

melbar · 03-22-2006, 01:58 AM

Oh ya , Horn

Remember he had that great couple of games including that 90 yard TD where he just blew past the defender and made him look stupid? Announcers were all going crazy over him , everyone saw him starting to come into his own and we didnt even try to resign him. He was signed for hardly anything.

greg63 · 03-22-2006, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Who are the most disappointing free agent departures in Chiefs history?

Start making a list, and I'll put up a poll when I get a good list of names. I know that I would probably forget some, and some other guys may have been cut and so weren't actually free-agent departures.

Off the top of my head, here's a starting list:

Greg Hill
Todd McNair
Todd Blackledge
Elvis Grbac
Tony Richardson
John Tait
Nick Lowery
Dave Szott
Gary Barbaro
Albert Lewis
Dale Carter
Kevin Ross
Anthony Davis
Greg Favors
Neil Smith
Chester McGlockton

All of those sound like a good start to me.

Poll please.

charlyfreak · 03-22-2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

clearly was donnie edwards-

this was a huge mistake- one which vermeil later would admit was a mistake-

joe horn also was a mistake,but didn't mean as much as edwards-

neil smith was getting older and slow-and wanted too much money- he never really did anything after he left the chiefs-

todd blackledge was the worst draft pick the chiefs ever made- so i am not sure why anyone would care that he wasn't resigned-

t rich,will be missed,but I believe they will be ok without him-

i know wilson,is getting ripped a lot,but he should get more action this year- plus don't forget,the chiefs signed robert holcombe last year- i believe he is a fullback- he was hurt last year,but shoud vie for the spot this year-

not sure why...but i am trusting that cp,will add some d help,and that the o will be fine......

**cdcox** · 03-22-2006, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsLV

My top three in order of impact:

Rich Gannon - We all knew he should have started in that playoff game. Then they let him go so there was no longer a QB controversy. Problem is, they let the wrong QB go. The killer was he went to the Raiders and got them to an NFC championship game and Superbowl. But the NFL gods didn't let us down in that Bucs-Raiders Superbowl. That's still my favorite superbowl ever and to think, I almost didn't watch it out of spite for the Raiders.

In this case, you mean positive impact by losing him, I can only presume. We had two bad QBs on the roster and got rid of one of them then.

Any success that Gannon had came out of the Gruden offensive system, that the Chiefs didn't run. And we all saw what a choker Gannon was under pressure. Too bad we had to wait another few years to shed Grbac.

**chefsos** · 03-22-2006, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfpack0735

stram trading curly culp to houston. lost one of the best DT`s the chiefs ever had. cant even remember who stram traded for.

Oh man, I forgot about Culp. Badass. I think he became the prototypical modern NT in Houston. It was The Tooz we got for him, wasn't it?

**Rain Man** · 03-22-2006, 09:27 AM

In the poll, I went with (in order):

Gary Barbaro - he was a bright spot in a secondary that was turning into a force, and then all of a sudden he defected to the USFL. It's taken me two decades to forgive him, and even now our relationship is strained.

Albert Lewis - That situation happened in a manner where I didn't even know he was at risk until he had gone to the dark side. One of my favorite all-time Chiefs had suddenly embraced evil. It was shocking.

Nick Lowery - To this day, I don't understand that move. In the big scheme of things, kickers aren't expensive, and the salary difference between a top-notch kicker and - you know what we ended up with, so I won't go there - was chump change for most other positions. It was a bad move then, and twenty years later it's still an obvious bad move.

**Gonzo** · 03-22-2006, 09:28 AM

Don't forget about Mark Vlasic!!!

Chiefnj · 03-22-2006, 09:33 AM

Smith, Lewis and Ross.

Horn was emerging as a good WR but IIRC fans weren't in love with the guy until he put up good numbers in NO. In KC he hadn't broken out yet, didn't have the best hands and was a very arrogant guy in relation to his production at the time. Wasn't he calling himself Hollywood Horn, or something ridiculous?

View Poll Results: Who are the THREE most disappointing free agent departures for you personally?
Albert Lewis	15	21.13%
Andre Rison	1	1.41%
Anthony Davis	1	1.41%
Bennie Thompson	0	0%
Chester McGlockton	0	0%
Dale Carter	5	7.04%
Dave Szott	3	4.23%
Donnie Edwards	39	54.93%
Elvis Grbac	1	1.41%
Ethan Horton	0	0%
Gary Barbaro	2	2.82%
Greg Favors	0	0%
Greg Hill	2	2.82%
Harvey Williams	0	0%
Jan Stenerud*	1	1.41%
Joe Horn	23	32.39%
John Tait	5	7.04%
Keith Traylor	5	7.04%
Kevin Ross	3	4.23%
Mike Garrett*	2	2.82%
Neil Smith	31	43.66%
Nick Lowery	4	5.63%
Reggie Tongue	1	1.41%
Rich Gannon	21	29.58%
Todd Blackledge*	0	0%
Todd McNair	1	1.41%
Tony Richardson	13	18.31%
Other. You missed (insert name here). (Actually, below.)	0	0%
None. Good riddance to the traitors.	1	1.41%
What is this free agency thing of which you speak?	0	0%
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03-21-2006, 03:26 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3188491 VARSITY	POLL IS NOW UP - the most disappointing free agent departures in Chiefs history. POLL IS NOW UP * - Pre-free agency, but essentially the same result Who are the most disappointing free agent departures in Chiefs history? Start making a list, and I'll put up a poll when I get a good list of names. I know that I would probably forget some, and some other guys may have been cut and so weren't actually free-agent departures. Off the top of my head, here's a starting list: Greg Hill Todd McNair Todd Blackledge Elvis Grbac Tony Richardson John Tait Nick Lowery Dave Szott Gary Barbaro Albert Lewis Dale Carter Kevin Ross Anthony Davis Greg Favors Neil Smith Chester McGlockton Last edited by Rain Man; 03-22-2006 at 09:22 AM..
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03-21-2006, 11:08 PM	#47
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2261769	Knife jabbing out of my back and now I'll hate you forever: Grbac True sense of loss that one of my favorites of all time left: Albert Lewis. A big dick: Neil Smith
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ChiefsLV Starter Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $7022003	My top three in order of impact: Joe Horn - Became a playmaker at WR, one of the best in the league for a few years at a time when KC desparately needed a playmaker WR. How the hell we let this guy go, I still cannot fathom. Donnie Edwards - Was in the prime of his career when we let him go and the defense was noticeably worse when he left. Some of us believed the "yeah he can tackle, but it's always four yards down field" propoganda. DV didn't value linebackers... big mistake, DV spent the better part of the next three seasons trying to upgrade the LB's. Rich Gannon - We all knew he should have started in that playoff game. Then they let him go so there was no longer a QB controversy. Problem is, they let the wrong QB go. The killer was he went to the Raiders and got them to an NFC championship game and Superbowl. But the NFL gods didn't let us down in that Bucs-Raiders Superbowl. That's still my favorite superbowl ever and to think, I almost didn't watch it out of spite for the Raiders.
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03-22-2006, 01:54 AM	#52
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	Edwards -especially after DT passed Smith was one of the core members Ditto T-Rich HOw bout KEVIN ROSS!? __________________
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03-22-2006, 01:58 AM	#53
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	Oh ya , Horn Remember he had that great couple of games including that 90 yard TD where he just blew past the defender and made him look stupid? Announcers were all going crazy over him , everyone saw him starting to come into his own and we didnt even try to resign him. He was signed for hardly anything. __________________
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03-22-2006, 09:27 AM	#58
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3188491 VARSITY	In the poll, I went with (in order): Gary Barbaro - he was a bright spot in a secondary that was turning into a force, and then all of a sudden he defected to the USFL. It's taken me two decades to forgive him, and even now our relationship is strained. Albert Lewis - That situation happened in a manner where I didn't even know he was at risk until he had gone to the dark side. One of my favorite all-time Chiefs had suddenly embraced evil. It was shocking. Nick Lowery - To this day, I don't understand that move. In the big scheme of things, kickers aren't expensive, and the salary difference between a top-notch kicker and - you know what we ended up with, so I won't go there - was chump change for most other positions. It was a bad move then, and twenty years later it's still an obvious bad move. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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03-22-2006, 09:33 AM	#60
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Smith, Lewis and Ross. Horn was emerging as a good WR but IIRC fans weren't in love with the guy until he put up good numbers in NO. In KC he hadn't broken out yet, didn't have the best hands and was a very arrogant guy in relation to his production at the time. Wasn't he calling himself Hollywood Horn, or something ridiculous? __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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