Checking the temperature, Joe Mixon

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

There's been no mantra more stupid, and more incessantly lauded here, than;

Draft high, draft high, draft high
Throw em in the fire
throw em in the trash if they don't work out
rinse repeat.

It's a ****ing basement guru, video game mentality.

This.

Teams/fans now EXPECT a year one break-out player at QB. It's rare. It's SUPER RARE.

Draft the right guy and groom him to lead your team...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

This, more than anything, if the underlying eyerolling at all the Alex agita.

Alex is not a central problem. He has room for improvement as does everyone. But rushing to replace him from, . . . wherever, and rushing his replacement to the field is a recipe for disaster.

There's been no mantra more stupid, and more incessantly lauded here, than;

Draft high, draft high, draft high
Throw em in the fire
throw em in the trash if they don't work out
rinse repeat.

It's a ****ing basement guru, video game mentality.

There's 'taking a chance' in Vegas at the blackjack table or roulette wheel, and then there's selling everything you own and putting it on Pai Gou, then selling your booty for more loot when you crap out.

This "throw them in the fire" line is bullshit. Most people are (and did even in the geno Smith times) wanted the qb to sit at least hall a season, and since Alex had been here most want them to sit a year.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

This "throw them in the fire" line is bullshit. Most people are (and did even in the geno Smith times) wanted the qb to sit at least hall a season, and since Alex had been here most want them to sit a year.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Not even close.

In fact I wanted Matt Hasselbeck signed to let geno sit a year.

And most of the geno people did too.

Look it up, it's all saved somewhere.

[Quesadilla Joe]

From an "unnamed NFC Scout"...

27. Chiefs: If they already didn't have one player publicly known for hitting a woman (wide receiver Tyreek Hill), they would take a chance on Mixon.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...mming-national

[Quesadilla Joe]

Personnel executives from 11 teams give their thoughts on Mixon...

Spoiler!

This month, the Journal Sentinel asked executives in personnel from 11 teams this question: What round, if any, would you feel comfortable drafting Joe Mixon?

Six personnel men said they had made the decision not to draft Mixon under any circumstances. Of the three that would select Mixon, one said first round and two said third round. Two executives declined to comment.

Here, in their words, is how 10 of the executives in personnel view Mixon entering the draft.

AFC executive: “How can you in our (large) market? How could you in any market take that guy early or in general? Off the board. Me, personally, I’d have a very hard time living with that.”

NFC executive: “I really think without the incident he’s a top-five pick. He’s probably going to go late first to mid-second. This guy’s just too talented. What he did was terrible. It was three years ago. He got suspended for a year. It’s not like he hasn’t paid a price. Since he did, he’s been fine. It will come down to the owner. I think a lot of owners will be very skeptical doing it. If I was in the 20s I’d take him.”

AFC executive: “He will not be on my board. Impulsive violence against a defenseless woman. I believe in forgiveness, but this is not a matter of forgiveness. It’s natural consequences for an action. I wish him well. ... Once you watch it you become a witness. I don’t need someone else telling me what happened. Maybe I don’t know all the circumstances before and after. A lot of times you’re not sure what really happened. This one, I saw it. He’s had some other times where he’s snapped. Not this heinous. I’ve got to look my wife in the eye. That’s not what I’m about.”

NFC executive: “I wouldn’t feel comfortable. You’re going to have to get up in front of a camera (if Mixon is drafted). If it’s on video now, you have no chance. But they swear by the kid at the school. He probably had too much to drink, but you can’t hit a girl. He won’t be on our board.”

NFC executive: “Off the board. Our guys went and talked to him. They said he was really good. Doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke. Just made a mistake when he was 18 and is paying for it.”

AFC executive: “To be determined. I’m going to pass on that. Some opinions I get paid for.”

AFC executive: “I am grading the guy as a player. The owner is the one that has to make the decision. There’s other people (football players) out there who have done much worse things. I don’t know what will happen, but I will bet you a team will draft him and he turns out to be a star. I don’t know how you’re going to justify it but if the guy goes out and scores touchdowns people are going to forget about it real quickly.”

NFC executive: “If your owner signs off on it then you go ahead and take him. We’re definitely not going down that road. Whether you take him in the first or the seventh, either you’re making a stand or you’re not. It’s not like some other incidents where drugs or this and that (affect) the value and the round. To me, this is you’re yes or no for him.”

AFC executive: “I did a lot of (expletive) when I was 18 that I’m not proud of but I never knocked out a girl. That’s just such a hot-button issue. I’m hearing too many things. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. I don’t have the confidence in him to draft him. We can get another back. You may turn down a special guy but the special guy’s got risks. I couldn’t do it.”

AFC executive: “He’s got talent but he’s also been caught on video. I took him off the board.”

Sooners coach Bob Stoops suspended Mixon for a Nov. 3 game against Iowa State after he tore a parking ticket in half and threw it at the attendant, hitting her in the face.

According to the police report, Mixon inched his car toward the attendant in what was described as intimidating fashion.

In December, Stoops said he would have thrown Mixon off the team if he had slugged Molitor in the current climate.

“Two-and-a-half years later, dismissal is really the only thing that is possible,” said Stoops. “A young guy having an opportunity to rehabilitate and to have some kind of discipline and come back from it is really not there anymore. Hopefully, that message goes down even to the high school level that these things are just unacceptable to any degree.”

Stoops said he was shaken by the video, describing it as “horrible.”

Sixteen personnel people agreed to rank the running backs on a 1-to-5 basis, with a first-place vote worth five points, a second worth four and so on.

Leonard Fournette led with 73 points, including 10 firsts. He was followed by Dalvin Cook, 61 (four); Christian McCaffrey, 47 (one); Joe Mixon, 34 (one); Alvin Kamara, 12; D’Onta Foreman, five; Kareem Hunt, four; Samaje Perine, three, and Curtis Samuel, one.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...xon/100605766/

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Personnel executives from 11 teams give their thoughts on Mixon...

Spoiler!

This month, the Journal Sentinel asked executives in personnel from 11 teams this question: What round, if any, would you feel comfortable drafting Joe Mixon?

Six personnel men said they had made the decision not to draft Mixon under any circumstances. Of the three that would select Mixon, one said first round and two said third round. Two executives declined to comment.

Here, in their words, is how 10 of the executives in personnel view Mixon entering the draft.

AFC executive: “How can you in our (large) market? How could you in any market take that guy early or in general? Off the board. Me, personally, I’d have a very hard time living with that.”

NFC executive: “I really think without the incident he’s a top-five pick. He’s probably going to go late first to mid-second. This guy’s just too talented. What he did was terrible. It was three years ago. He got suspended for a year. It’s not like he hasn’t paid a price. Since he did, he’s been fine. It will come down to the owner. I think a lot of owners will be very skeptical doing it. If I was in the 20s I’d take him.”

AFC executive: “He will not be on my board. Impulsive violence against a defenseless woman. I believe in forgiveness, but this is not a matter of forgiveness. It’s natural consequences for an action. I wish him well. ... Once you watch it you become a witness. I don’t need someone else telling me what happened. Maybe I don’t know all the circumstances before and after. A lot of times you’re not sure what really happened. This one, I saw it. He’s had some other times where he’s snapped. Not this heinous. I’ve got to look my wife in the eye. That’s not what I’m about.”

NFC executive: “I wouldn’t feel comfortable. You’re going to have to get up in front of a camera (if Mixon is drafted). If it’s on video now, you have no chance. But they swear by the kid at the school. He probably had too much to drink, but you can’t hit a girl. He won’t be on our board.”

NFC executive: “Off the board. Our guys went and talked to him. They said he was really good. Doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke. Just made a mistake when he was 18 and is paying for it.”

AFC executive: “To be determined. I’m going to pass on that. Some opinions I get paid for.”

AFC executive: “I am grading the guy as a player. The owner is the one that has to make the decision. There’s other people (football players) out there who have done much worse things. I don’t know what will happen, but I will bet you a team will draft him and he turns out to be a star. I don’t know how you’re going to justify it but if the guy goes out and scores touchdowns people are going to forget about it real quickly.”

NFC executive: “If your owner signs off on it then you go ahead and take him. We’re definitely not going down that road. Whether you take him in the first or the seventh, either you’re making a stand or you’re not. It’s not like some other incidents where drugs or this and that (affect) the value and the round. To me, this is you’re yes or no for him.”

AFC executive: “I did a lot of (expletive) when I was 18 that I’m not proud of but I never knocked out a girl. That’s just such a hot-button issue. I’m hearing too many things. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. I don’t have the confidence in him to draft him. We can get another back. You may turn down a special guy but the special guy’s got risks. I couldn’t do it.”

AFC executive: “He’s got talent but he’s also been caught on video. I took him off the board.”

Sooners coach Bob Stoops suspended Mixon for a Nov. 3 game against Iowa State after he tore a parking ticket in half and threw it at the attendant, hitting her in the face.

According to the police report, Mixon inched his car toward the attendant in what was described as intimidating fashion.

In December, Stoops said he would have thrown Mixon off the team if he had slugged Molitor in the current climate.

“Two-and-a-half years later, dismissal is really the only thing that is possible,” said Stoops. “A young guy having an opportunity to rehabilitate and to have some kind of discipline and come back from it is really not there anymore. Hopefully, that message goes down even to the high school level that these things are just unacceptable to any degree.”

Stoops said he was shaken by the video, describing it as “horrible.”

Sixteen personnel people agreed to rank the running backs on a 1-to-5 basis, with a first-place vote worth five points, a second worth four and so on.

Leonard Fournette led with 73 points, including 10 firsts. He was followed by Dalvin Cook, 61 (four); Christian McCaffrey, 47 (one); Joe Mixon, 34 (one); Alvin Kamara, 12; D’Onta Foreman, five; Kareem Hunt, four; Samaje Perine, three, and Curtis Samuel, one.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...xon/100605766/

JIM BROWN...

[O.city]

I get not taking him, terrible shit he did. But it seems these guys are setting themselves up for some backlash. I won't take a guy with domestic violence but I'll take one with other issues etc.
.if there wasn't video, I'd imagine alot of their tunes would change.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by O.city

I get not taking him, terrible shit he did. But it seems these guys are setting themselves up for some backlash. I won't take a guy with domestic violence but I'll take one with other issues etc.
.if there wasn't video, I'd imagine alot of their tunes would change.

Of course you would take him. You're a dentist and Joe Mixon is good for business.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Of course you would take him.

He knows how to win an argument...

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Of course you would take him. You're a dentist and Joe Mixon is good for business.

Did Mixon knock her teeth out or something?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Did Mixon knock her teeth out or something?

He sure tried.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by vailpass

He sure tried.

Why did she snap and attack him like that? Looks like he was leaving then she came after him.

I would still take him in the second after drafting Davis Webb.

Hill and Mixon could wreck shit.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Did Mixon knock her teeth out or something?

He broke her jaw.

[Halfcan]

Draft a QB in the first and move up and get this kid in the 2nd. I would be good with that.

His highlight video kind of reminds me of Marcus Allen- great balance, a nose for the end zone and always drives forward for extra yards after contact.

I watched the video of his "Domestic Assult" in high school. I would never advocate hitting a girl under any circumstances.. but she did push him then slapped him across the face. A split second poor decision has already branded him a women beater for life.

I am not sure why posters on here feel he should never be given a second chance?

Is he the next Emmitt Smith or Larry Johnson? It would be worth the gamble to find out.