Stint Green: Rattled or lost a step? - Page 2

Dr. Chief · 11:08 PM

Did the first 4 weeks of getting knocked around get something in his head or has he lost a step, because he looks terrible on every pass downfield of more than 15 yards. The balls are not tight or are badly over/under thrown. He's not crisp at all.

**the Talking Can** · 10-17-2005, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

How can you be critical of Green after that game? Facing on of the top passing defenses in the league, he ground out tough yards on the ground, escaped numerous sacks, made key first down throws, and was throwing blocks for Priest Holmes. He completed 60% of his passes and had a rating of 95.6, in spite of a complete lack of an effective running game.

Green played his ass off in that game. As soon as the "best O-line in the NFL" starts playing like they should, Green will be able to get his job done better.

yup

Trent does seem a bit rattled by not being able to trust his OL as usual...but he's adapting...it just won't be as pretty this year, but the W is what matters....

Brock · 10-17-2005, 07:24 AM

Trent Green is a tough SOB.

Extra Point · 10-17-2005, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Trent Green is a tough SOB.

MO DEF!

How many interceptions did Green throw? Same as Brunell, none.
Green picked up what he coughed up. Brunell didn't: he had 2.
Green 5 carries, 5 ypc. Brunell 2 carries, 1 ypc.

Like jspchief said, "Facing on of the top passing defenses in the league, he ground out tough yards on the ground, escaped numerous sacks, made key first down throws, and was throwing blocks for Priest Holmes."

These "little things" add up. Green bashers need to

at least another week.

**Mr. Kotter** · 10-17-2005, 07:46 AM

Trent isn't the problem.

RT and an aging OL, piss poor play-calling, and Gonzo not getting open seem to be the biggest things we need to correct if we wish to be a contender, and not a pretender.

htismaqe · 10-17-2005, 07:51 AM

I thought Green looked great yesterday, considering Priest had 11 carries for 14 yards or some shit...

wolfpack0735 · 10-17-2005, 07:57 AM

trents passes looked off alittle sunday. but the one throw fairly deep to parker looked like the old trent,or atleast from where i was sitting. he threw the ball before the cut and it was there. i was more amazed parker caught the ball. i thought for the most part trent had time to throw the ball, just his WR`S weren`t getting open.

Extra Point · 10-17-2005, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I thought Green looked great yesterday, considering Priest had 11 carries for 14 yards or some shit...

...and selling the cross cut-back screen in Q4.

Eleazar · 10-17-2005, 08:18 AM

I think Green's doing a good job, considering there are only 2 people on the team who can get open in the passing game and the running attack has been sputtering like crazy.

TRR · 10-17-2005, 08:21 AM

Green hasn't had the protection he's had in the past, and is working with new WR's in Parker and Wilson.

Green is the least of KC's problems.

Extra Point · 10-17-2005, 08:27 AM

I'd like to reiterate two points:

Green to Boerigter!

Mr. Laz · 10-17-2005, 09:54 AM

Green is not a guy that deals all that well with pressure. Our normally stalwart offensive line isn't playing very well.

sluggish offense line = inconsistent running game
sluggish offense line + No Play action Pass = Green's happy feet

all starts with the drop in play of our Oline

redfan · 10-17-2005, 10:14 AM

When your 2 best pass catchers (TonyG and Kennison) combine for 2 count 'em TWO recs, your QB is gonna have a tough day. Having said that, Green's performance against the 'Skins was awesome. He's out there doing whatever it takes to lead this team to victory. When was the last time you saw and NFL QB seeking out a DB or DL to throw a block? Green may not be a very mobile QB, but he can move when he has to. I hate the word escapability, but that's what Green's got. He may not throw a pretty spiral, but he gets the job done.

Calcountry · 10-17-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OzArK KrAzO

(He just has not had the time to stand in the pocket that he has enjoyed in the past few seasons. Remember the play where he had to dodge hits from 5 different 'Skins? Once (or if) he gains confidence in the O-Line again, you will see a different story) I agree he took a david carr type beating.

Im hopin he settles back down fast though.

Who was playing RT yesterday? He was consistently getting beat. I looked like he would give up on the play early too, instead of pushing the pass rush as far out as he could thus allowing Green to step up in the pocket. He was leaving an angle to Trent over and over.

Calcountry · 10-17-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Green is not a guy that deals all that well with pressure. Our normally stalwart offensive line isn't playing very well.

sluggish offense line = inconsistent running game
sluggish offense line + No Play action Pass = Green's happy feet

all starts with the drop in play of our Oline

They are getting old and the new guys aren't stepping up.

jynni · 10-17-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

Who was playing RT yesterday? He was consistently getting beat. I looked like he would give up on the play early too, instead of pushing the pass rush as far out as he could thus allowing Green to step up in the pocket. He was leaving an angle to Trent over and over.

Didn't Black play RT? Hopefully Sampson will be ready next week.

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wolfpack0735 buttnaked is the only way tobe Join Date: May 2001 Location: B/T lost & nowhere in ks. Casino cash: $10008827	trents passes looked off alittle sunday. but the one throw fairly deep to parker looked like the old trent,or atleast from where i was sitting. he threw the ball before the cut and it was there. i was more amazed parker caught the ball. i thought for the most part trent had time to throw the ball, just his WR`S weren`t getting open. __________________ Three most important things in life... Chiefs football, Beer and women, all in that order!! Adopt - A - Chief Willie Lanier Old enough to remember WHAT a Super Bowl is!!
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Green is not a guy that deals all that well with pressure. Our normally stalwart offensive line isn't playing very well. sluggish offense line = inconsistent running game sluggish offense line + No Play action Pass = Green's happy feet all starts with the drop in play of our Oline __________________ Last edited by Mr. Laz; 10-17-2005 at 10:22 AM..
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10-17-2005, 10:14 AM	#27
redfan Day one guy Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: BBQ Elitas Casino cash: $1981852	When your 2 best pass catchers (TonyG and Kennison) combine for 2 count 'em TWO recs, your QB is gonna have a tough day. Having said that, Green's performance against the 'Skins was awesome. He's out there doing whatever it takes to lead this team to victory. When was the last time you saw and NFL QB seeking out a DB or DL to throw a block? Green may not be a very mobile QB, but he can move when he has to. I hate the word escapability, but that's what Green's got. He may not throw a pretty spiral, but he gets the job done. __________________ KC CHIEFS SB IV LIV LVII LVIII CHAMPIONS "65 Toss Power Trap!" "Triple Gun Trey Right 3 Jet Chip Wasp Y Funnel" "Orange You, Duo Left 30 XL 35 Y Corn Dog" "Trips Right Bunch F Shuttle, Tom&Jerry Right Yellow. Orange, Let's GO!!"
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