Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 103

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

siberian khatru · 09-27-2013, 07:24 PM

Shields be dealin' tonight

KevB · 09-27-2013, 07:24 PM

Dayton talking about putting Hochever back in the rotation. Lefever trying to make the Greinke connection. The more likely comparison is the more recent and obvious Wade Davis.

siberian khatru · 09-27-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

I'll have you know funny guy that he only had 996 hits when he came to KC. He's had three whole hits as a Royal coming into tonight, in only 33 ABs. That's a blistering .091 average.

Elliott Johnson laughs

Nightfyre · 09-27-2013, 07:24 PM

Carroll cost Alex an assist last inning. I am pissed. Also Dayton Moore was just on talking very non-specifically about Luke hochevar. Maybe he's pumping up his trade value.

siberian khatru · 09-27-2013, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB

Dayton talking about putting Hochever back in the rotation. Lefever trying to make the Greinke connection. The more likely comparison is the more recent and obvious Wade Davis.

Oh, for ****'s sakes.

Just shoot me now.

stonedstooge · 09-27-2013, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

I'll have you know funny guy that he only had 996 hits when he came to KC. He's had three whole hits as a Royal coming into tonight, in only 33 ABs. That's a blistering .091 average.

I really didn't remember him getting a hit as a Royal. Must have snuck in 3 that I missremember

siberian khatru · 09-27-2013, 07:26 PM

Billay owning Sale tonight

-King- · 09-27-2013, 07:33 PM

Man, I'm going to be sad if/when Santana leaves. That interview with Guthrie was cool to watch with Santana beside him cracking jokes and throwing sunflower seeds on him.

stonedstooge · 09-27-2013, 07:37 PM

Jesus 9 strikeouts for Shields in 4 2/3

-King- · 09-27-2013, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge

I really didn't remember him getting a hit as a Royal. Must have snuck in 3 that I missremember

I was going to say before that hit that I don't think he's had a hit since becoming a Royal.

**Dartgod** · 09-27-2013, 07:49 PM

Good God, that was fugly.

siberian khatru · 09-27-2013, 08:00 PM

Damn, there goes the shutout

Deberg_1990 · 09-27-2013, 08:01 PM

So no more official game threads since we are out of it?
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SPchief · 09-27-2013, 08:01 PM

**Dartgod** · 09-27-2013, 08:02 PM

Alex.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
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