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Old 02-18-2013, 06:27 PM   #1
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Why do you argue politics in DC if you feel this way? Thats what they do for a living, they obviously know more than you.


(Unless of course you are a politician, in that case, carry on).
Could you give me an example that makes your analogy apt?
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:29 PM   #2
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Could you give me an example that makes your analogy apt?
You say we have to defer to the guys who "do this for a living", automatically making them smarter than us.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:03 PM   #3
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:03 PM   #4
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Top 5 OL in the draft, a history:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...e=any&show=all

Matt Kalil - 0 playoff wins
Trent Williams - 0 playoff wins
Jason Smith - 0 playoff wins
Jake Long - 0 playoff wins
Joe Thomas - 0 playoff wins
Levi Brown - 4 playoff wins
D-Brickashaw Ferguson - 1 playoff win
Robert Gallery - 0 playoff wins
Mike Williams - 0 playoff wins
Leonard Davis - 1 playoff win
Chris Samuels - 1 playoff win
Orlando Pace - 6 playoff wins

Cliffs: In the last 15 years, 12 OL have been taken in the top 5. Only two have more than one playoff win, and it's because they were associated with Kurt Warner.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:05 PM   #5
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Ferguson only has 1? Was he hurt the two years they went through the playoffs?
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:13 PM   #6
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Ferguson only has 1? Was he hurt the two years they went through the playoffs?
I don't know, and I don't care.

He's 7 years into his career and will probably never win a Super Bowl.

Because QB is law.

And I am the judge.

And Mike Mayock is GUILTY.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:17 PM   #7
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I don't know, and I don't care.

He's 7 years into his career and will probably never win a Super Bowl.

Because QB is law.

And I am the judge.

And Mike Mayock is GUILTY.
It wasn't an attempt to discredit your point. I was just curious.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:15 PM   #8
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Ferguson only has 1? Was he hurt the two years they went through the playoffs?
That is what I was thinking as well. He should have at least 4 wins.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #9
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Especially when we already have a 10 LT and overall line. This is just ****ing reeruned and Mayock should just be forced to quit on the spot for this garbage. Guess he's trying to get some coin out of these QB's agents.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:16 PM   #10
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I would ****ing do a year in jail just to see us draft a QB.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:21 PM   #11
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LTs on the last 12 SB winners:

Will Beatty - 2nd round pick
Chad Clifton - 2nd round pick
Jermon Bushrod - 4th round pick
Max Starks - 3rd round pick
David Diehl - 5th round pick
Tarik Glenn - 1st round pick
Marvel Smith - 2nd round pick
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:26 PM   #12
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Chiefs aren't sold on rookie QBs

By Bill Williamson, ESPN

If the Kansas City Chiefs are going to use the No. 1 overall pick on a quarterback, that player better start impressing the team.

So far, it hasn’t happened. There have long been indications the Chiefs are leaning toward finding their new starting quarterback in either free agency or the trade market. In an interview with the Kansas City Star, new Chiefs’ general manager John Dorsey admitted there is currently not a quarterback who the team thinks is worthy of the being the top pick.

“There is no quarterback where personnel guys can definitely say, ‘He’s a first-round pick,’ ” Dorsey told the paper. “There were so many inconsistencies in the collective group. There was not one guy that stood up and said, ‘I’m the guy in the position this year.’ There really wasn’t one clear-cut guy.”

The only quarterback who likely has a chance to show he is worthy of being a top pick is West Virginia’s Geno Smith. But, as Dorsey explained, Smith isn’t there yet.

I know the idea of Kansas City not drafting a quarterback in the first round bothers some Chiefs fans. But if the team doesn’t think quarterback is worthy of the top pick, they shouldn’t force it. Nothing sets a franchise back like a whiffing on a quarterback at the top of the draft.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:49 PM   #13
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Nothing sets a franchise back like a whiffing on a quarterback at the top of the draft.
Yeah, trading for Matt Cassel is MUCH safer.
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LTs on the last 12 SB winners:

Will Beatty - 2nd round pick
Chad Clifton - 2nd round pick
Jermon Bushrod - 4th round pick
Max Starks - 3rd round pick
David Diehl - 5th round pick
Tarik Glenn - 1st round pick
Marvel Smith - 2nd round pick
Matt Light - 2nd round pick
Roman Oben - 3rd round pick
Jonathan Ogden - 1st round pick, top 5
Orlando Pace - 1st round pick, top 5
Quick, let Albert walk.

Keep Donald Stephenson, though.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:22 PM   #15
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Top 5 OL in the draft, a history:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...e=any&show=all

Matt Kalil - 0 playoff wins
Trent Williams - 0 playoff wins
Jason Smith - 0 playoff wins
Jake Long - 0 playoff wins
Joe Thomas - 0 playoff wins
Levi Brown - 4 playoff wins
D-Brickashaw Ferguson - 1 playoff win
Robert Gallery - 0 playoff wins
Mike Williams - 0 playoff wins
Leonard Davis - 1 playoff win
Chris Samuels - 1 playoff win
Orlando Pace - 6 playoff wins

Cliffs: In the last 15 years, 12 OL have been taken in the top 5. Only two have more than one playoff win, and it's because they were associated with Kurt Warner.
That's some pretty damning evidence right there. I definitely don't like the idea of taking a OL or DL with the top pick no matter what we do.
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