Ray Donovan - new Showtime series

[Baby Lee]

I meant to say this earlier, but talk on the web about episode to, between Papa Donovan's 'it's OK to let someone suck your cock, but dont take it in the ass,' the movie star I-chatting the Ray's underage son, and the blackmailing tranny, that this is a homophobic show.

What say you guys?

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I meant to say this earlier, but talk on the web about episode to, between Papa Donovan's 'it's OK to let someone suck your cock, but dont take it in the ass,' the movie star I-chatting the Ray's underage son, and the blackmailing tranny, that this is a homophobic show.

What say you guys?

There are some race issues as well. Every single black character is as much of a stereotype as you can create. Hopefully some writing and editing changes this in the future. It's a bit obvious.

Game of Thrones has this issue as well.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I meant to say this earlier, but talk on the web about episode to, between Papa Donovan's 'it's OK to let someone suck your cock, but dont take it in the ass,' the movie star I-chatting the Ray's underage son, and the blackmailing tranny, that this is a homophobic show.

What say you guys?

It is not a homophobic show, and it is not racist. The show simply has characters that are homophobic and racist. These are real world characters, and not PC bullshit that other shows feel the need to have.

I love the show, and think that is has a world of possibilities.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

It is not a homophobic show, and it is not racist. The show simply has characters that are homophobic and racist. These are real world characters, and not PC bullshit that other shows feel the need to have.

I love the show, and think that is has a world of possibilities.

FTR, I wasn't proposing this as fact, or even my opinion, but it seemed to be getting a lot of play on other sites and I thought it might be a topic of productive conversation here. Those aspects rolled right off my back when I watched the episode, but I've always gravitated to the taboo/seedy in entertainment. Tony Soprano, Vic Mackey, In the Company of Men, Deadwood, etc.

Like you, I think, I don't view these as good or bad people necessarily, just people who ARE in the world the creators have made. Ambiguity [moral, ethical or otherwise] with a sense of purpose is catnip to me.