Andy Reid with Peter King

[DaneMcCloud]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...ng-peter-king/

Four questions with Andy Reid ...

Not long before the end of the season, I wanted to ask Andy Reid whether he'd be interested in writing something around the time of the Super Bowl for Sports Illustrated. He said no -- even though in his youth he wanted to be a sportswriter. He thought he might be otherwise occupied. I'd felt he wouldn't take a year off from coaching up to that point, but then I knew if there was a job out there, he'd want it.

Q: So, since you've been named the Chiefs' coach, many people wonder: 'With everything you've been through -- your son Garrett's death by overdose, the turbulent year on and off the field you just went through -- why not take a year off to recharge and get your life back in order?

Reid: "Because I love what I do. Garrett loved what I did. It doesn't feel like work. I didn't want to sit home and not coach. What was I going to do? There was nothing I wanted to do as much as coach football. The thing with Garrett ... it was not very sudden; this was a long, long process. Unfortunately, [drug addiction] is so rampant in America, and people who have gone through it realize that you don't just -- as in my case -- lose a son; you lose a great friend. Now I'm able to bring my other son here. [Reid hired Britt Reid, who also had drug-addiction issues, to be a Chiefs quality-control coach.] Remember, he lost his best friend. But I am so proud of how far he's come. And it says something about him that the three coaches he worked for at Temple wanted him to come with them. The other side of this is working to move on like a man and handle what life throws at you. We're doing that.''

Q: Why the Chiefs? Why not, say, Arizona, or the other places you were linked to?

Reid: "The Hunt family is one of four or five bedrock families in the NFL that I always thought, 'If I'm ever released [by the Eagles], if one of those families calls, I'd listen.' The history here is so rich, the tradition is so rich, the fan base is so strong.''

Q: What's the one overriding thing you take from Philadelphia into this job?

Reid: "I learned to embrace a city in Philadelphia. They'll take you from boyhood to manhood, which they did with me, and that's okay. It's a results business. I got that. As far as the team goes, it's imperative that everybody's pulling in the same direction. That's the only way you can succeed."

Q: What's your take on the talent you inherit?

Reid: "Before I interviewed with the Chiefs, I looked at every snap from every [Kansas City] game this year. Special teams were average. The talent overall, it looked to me like they were transitioning from an older team to a younger one. And I thought, 'With a couple, three drafts, very good things can happen here."

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

wouldnt for one day you would like to HIT on a player/talent in this decade? Like have a d-line that exceeds your low end shitty expectations of marginal progress?

Have another Derrick Thomas or Neil Smith? Wouldnt you like to be one of those teams that hits on a player in the first round like that rather than wondering if your #11 overall pick is going to get his first sack in year 2 of his playing career so we can clap and cheer on his progression good for him yay!

wouldnt you like your low expectations of our positional talent/development, be raised? Wouldnt that be awesome than what you expect of players now you give a free pass?

Hey maybe Allen Bailey will learn how to beat a 1 on 1 block and not get blown off the ball, or Jalil Brown will know how to not go all Will Bartee and faceguard or that Jeff Allen wont get blown off the ****ing ball every play, but it's okay, he's changing positions, he gets a pass.

Because even his biggest critics on CP said we won't know what we have in Poe in year 1.

Nobody has said Jeff Allen has tremendous upside, nor are they now. Nobody said that about Tyson Jackson -- everyone knew his ceiling was a Ty Warren guy who maintained his gaps but would never be a pass rusher. And nobody has talked about Bailey beyond being an interesting project.

Nobody is giving Poe a free pass. He exceeded expectations and continues to improve. Nobody is saying he's awesome or is a lock to be awesome. We're saying he's on the right track.

[Hammock Parties]

It's nice that Poe didn't completely suck. He was not the worst lineman in the league ala Tyson Jackson 2009.

To say he has game changing potential based on what he did in 2012 is completely false.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

The problem is that he showed almost no signs of being a top end player.

He was indistinguishable from Ron Edwards.

So why sit here and say he could be a "game changer?"

We have no way of knowing, and if he was a 5th round pick NO ONE would be saying it.

He could be a game changer because he has a rare talent. It is unusual for a guy his size to be able to play all across the line of scrimmage. Or to have that mix between speed and size and strength, as well as endurance. Everything that was wrong with him looks like technique. Fixable stuff.

He was better than Edwards. Poe was on most snaps Ron Edwards, but there were also plenty of snaps where he flashed his upside. He is much further along than we expected. More importantly, Edwards walked in ready to play the Nose. The Nose isn't just about physical ability, it's also a really challenging mental position. He deserves time. No reason to overhype him, but he's much further along than anyone expected. On CP, many were wondering if he should ride the pine until he learns the basics.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He was better than Edwards.

Ron Edwards once had 3 sacks in a season for this team.

He was never as bad as Poe was last year for us.

Shit, Ron Edwards 2010 season was pretty good. He was a valuable contributor on that defense.

You people are vastly overrating Poe. He enters his sophmore season with one goal: prove he isn't one of the worst 10 starting DTs in the game, because that's what he was last year.

[DTLB58]

Interesting only 11 players on the top 30 of this list found themselves on playoff teams.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Ron Edwards once had 3 sacks in a season for this team.

He was never as bad as Poe was last year for us.

Shit, Ron Edwards 2010 season was pretty good. He was a valuable contributor on that defense.

You people are vastly overrating Poe. He enters his sophmore season with one goal: prove he isn't one of the worst 10 starting DTs in the game, because that's what he was last year.

I really don't care how a veteran stacks up against a rookie we all knew had a steep learning curve ahead of him. Nor do I really care about how PFF stacks up a list of mostly 4-3 DTs to a 3-4 NT, all of which ranked very low according to your chart.

Nobody is overrating him. Nobody is saying he's going to be a beast... guaranteed. But there is plenty of reason to believe the upside is tremendous.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But there is plenty of reason to believe the upside is tremendous.

The only reason is his draft position.

As a rookie, he was very underwhelming. This is not up for debate. It is fact.

[Hammock Parties]

Perspective: Jerrell Powe had a better PFF grade than Dontari Poe last season.

Poe is dogshit until proven otherwise. **** "potential" talk.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

11 out of 17 NFL.com guys thought we would win the division in 2012 because of the talent we had.

You thought so, too...as did I.

I think we had the NFLs worst combo of head coach and quarterbacks and that we are going from that to a top 5 coach in the league and will hopefully get good game manager play from our quarterback in his rookie year.

Romeo was Mr. I don't know and Cassel lead the league in turnovers even though he was benched before the halfway point.

I stick by my comment.

If we draft Geno and we field a defense that taps into the potential of the talent on that side of the ball, we will be in the 2013 playoffs.

I was wrong.

Albert was injured, Allen sucked, Hudson was injured, Asamoah was average and Winston was not much of an upgrade. Baldwin was a major disappointment, Breaston invisible, Boss was injured and Moeaki had the weakest return of the ACL Club.

Lewis was crap, Routt was crap, Silar was crap and of course, Dorsey and Jackson were non-factors. Bailey regressed, Pituatoa and Smith were underwhelming, as was Jalil Brown and Abe Elam.

If not for Jamaal Charles, this team would have been 0-16.

[BossChief]

I'd regress, too, if Crennel was my head coach and Cassel/Quinn were the quarterbacks.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

The only reason is his draft position.

As a rookie, he was very underwhelming. This is not up for debate. It is fact.

No. Tyson Jackson's was over-drafted because all of us knew, he had the upside of a guy who could handle the position, but never had the speed or raw strength to be a premiere 5-technique. Poe was drafted high because of his potential. He has elite speed and power and speed and endurance, and that wasn't just in the combine, that was seen on the field but didn't translate because of awful technique. Poe's upside is based on the very, very rare ability for a nose tackle to play across the line.

You can't say he was underwhelming based on fact just because PFF has a number out there. PFF doesn't consider the quality of snaps. I don't think they weight the difference between 3-4 NTs and 4-3 DTs, and they certainly don't account for scheme. Most importantly, they don't account for where Poe is expected to be in his development. What we all said in the beginning of the year, both critics of the picks and people who liked it, was that Poe was going to be a project and we'd be happy if he just saw the field. He did. He was generally not a liability and he flashed plays. That is better than what we expected from him.

[Hammock Parties]

PFF doesn't consider the quality of snaps.

That's exactly what they consider, dumbass. They grade every snap.

Poe needs to show something next year before anyone says he has the potential to be a game changer. I don't give a **** about combine numbers, because Jon Baldwin had nice combine numbers, too.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

That's exactly what they consider, dumbass. They grade every snap.

Poe needs to show something next year before anyone says he has the potential to be a game changer. I don't give a **** about combine numbers, because Jon Baldwin had nice combine numbers, too.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...hiefs-week-11/

One of the players assured of a role in Kansas City’s rebuilding process is first-round rookie DT Dontari Poe. They’ve thrown him right into the mix this season as he’s played 69% of the team’s snaps and 234 of his 367 plays have come as the nose tackle in a three-man line. Despite his -5.0 overall grade, he’s shown amazing consistency, as he’s never graded above +1.0 or below -1.0 in any game. Poe’s provided little pass rush to this point and has notched a mere eight hurries in 195 attempts. Though he’s had his struggles in the running game at times, Poe’s 7.5% Run Stop Percentage ranks 15th in the league. Poe’s development will be one of the key storylines for Chiefs fans the second half of the season.

So much for your statistics, when the source providing you with your statistics is telling you not to read too much into them.

[Hammock Parties]

You seem to miss the main point.

Poe’s provided little pass rush to this point and has notched a mere eight hurries in 195 attempts.

Sounds like a guy with game-changing potential!

[Hammock Parties]

FYI, Dontari Poe graded below -1.0 in 3 of his 4 games to end the season. So much for consistency, eh?