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Old 04-26-2013, 02:00 PM   #1
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I don't think it could be any more clear. We aren't taking a QB in this draft.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:02 PM   #2
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I don't think it could be any more clear. We aren't taking a QB in this draft.
agreed

we wouldn't of signed Chase Daniels in addition to trading for Alex Smith if we were looking for a QB.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:14 PM   #3
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I don't think it could be any more clear. We aren't taking a QB in this draft.
I agree, but this sure is fun to watch.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:03 PM   #4
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When you're doing the above mentioned learning, on top of learning an NFL playbook, adjusting to life as an NFL player, and are young, you can extremely hinder development.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:05 PM   #5
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When you're doing the above mentioned learning, on top of learning an NFL playbook, adjusting to life as an NFL player, and are young, you can extremely hinder development.
By having a player learn an easier position before a more difficult one?...
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:11 PM   #6
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By having a player learn an easier position before a more difficult one?...
It's a whole new position. Easier (which I don't really agree with given that most teams have quality LDEs in addition to RDEs) doesn't mean that the techniques are easier. As an extreme analogy, have you ever tried learning to throw left-handed? Everything is flipped. Let's take a 4 year player who only played LT. He has 4+ years of muscle memory on his kick-slide, mirroring, footwork, and balance all predicated to the left side. Now he has to try and develop 4+ years of the above mentioned traits in 1 training camp.

This is also why you don't see a lot of rookie WRs spend a lot of time working out of the slot that didn't do so in college. They're learning an entirely new position, new footwork, and new techniques. You don't want to completely overwhelm your rookies.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:14 PM   #7
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Let's take a 4 year player who only played LT. He has 4+ years of muscle memory on his kick-slide, mirroring, footwork, and balance all predicated to the left side. Now he has to try and develop 4+ years of the above mentioned traits in 1 training camp.
Fisher has already played right tackle in college

He's player left tackle,right tackle ... even some guard iirc.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:16 PM   #8
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Fisher has already played right tackle in college

He's player left tackle,right tackle ... even some guard iirc.
I'm aware of this. That's why I didn't cite Fisher in that post.

I want him playing LT immediately so he can begin his development as quickly as possible. I don't think he'd struggle at RT.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:17 PM   #9
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It's a whole new position. Easier (which I don't really agree with given that most teams have quality LDEs in addition to RDEs) doesn't mean that the techniques are easier. As an extreme analogy, have you ever tried learning to throw left-handed? Everything is flipped. Let's take a 4 year player who only played LT. He has 4+ years of muscle memory on his kick-slide, mirroring, footwork, and balance all predicated to the left side. Now he has to try and develop 4+ years of the above mentioned traits in 1 training camp.

This is also why you don't see a lot of rookie WRs spend a lot of time working out of the slot that didn't do so in college. They're learning an entirely new position, new footwork, and new techniques. You don't want to completely overwhelm your rookies.
The guy can play any position on the line. Other than C I'd feel fine anywhere we put him year 1...
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:20 PM   #10
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The guy can play any position on the line. Other than C I'd feel fine anywhere we put him year 1...
I would as well, as far as Fisher in concerned. I'd feel the same about Kalil.

Any of the other tackle prospects, eh. I'd rather just start them at LT and if they don't pan out, then you find a productive position for them later.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:09 PM   #11
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Isnt time running out?
It happens today or not at all.

I doubt we trade him for a pick next year...
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Let's go over this one more time.

1. Sorter posts a list of players who had to play RT initially after being drafted to play LT in the future. They struggle and never end up playing LT.
2. Laz gets pissy and wonders how playing RT could be detrimental
3. Sorter provides actual breakdowns of how that can be detrimental and slow a player's development/learning curve
4. Laz gets pissier, and starts spouting off about Fisher
5. Sorter says that he never mentioned Fisher and was simply playing devils advocate while still producing factual evidence of players who had to play RT and struggled with their transition to the NFL.
6. Laz rejoices realizing he tried to suck Sorter into an argument, did so, and probably lights up a cigarette, enjoying his effective and near L.A. Chieffan level of elite trolling.

Edit: 7. Sorter bangs head into keyboard.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:38 PM   #15
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Let's go over this one more time.

1. Sorter posts a list of players who had to play RT initially after being drafted to play LT in the future. They struggle and never end up playing LT.
2. Laz gets pissy and wonders how playing RT could be detrimental
3. Sorter provides actual breakdowns of how that can be detrimental and slow a player's development/learning curve
4. Laz gets pissier, and starts spouting off about Fisher
5. Sorter says that he never mentioned Fisher and was simply playing devils advocate while still producing factual evidence of players who had to play RT and struggled with their transition to the NFL.
6. Laz rejoices realizing he tried to suck Sorter into an argument, did so, and probably lights up a cigarette, enjoying his effective and near L.A. Chieffan level of elite trolling.
so you discuss and i get pissy?

that's quite the challenging perspective
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