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Old 11-11-2013, 05:45 PM  
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:04 PM   #196
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He could have told Eric something like this: "Hey Eric, I notice you are trying to build a bomb, can you tell me why you are doing that? Also, why do you have all this hate speech laying around? Who do you hate so much and why? Oh, and what are all these semi-auto guns doing here, and all this ammunition? Hey, if you want to go hunting, or go to the range (because I'm a former military guy myself) why don't we go this weekend? Eric, I love you and I want what is best for you, can we spend some more time together?"

something like that?
Did he know about the existence of all these things?

This is my main point. You can't legislate the turn around of an apathetic parent. And someone who isn't listening obviously doesn't think that worse case scenario applies to them.
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:07 PM   #197
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Did he know about the existence of all these things?

This is my main point. You can't legislate the turn around of an apathetic parent. And someone who isn't listening obviously doesn't think that worse case scenario applies to them.
The point is that Eric's dad never went into Eric's room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When the police went into Eric's room after the tragedy they found all this stuff all over his rooom, it was everywhere.

Eric's dad was not involved in his life. Period. End of story.
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:11 PM   #198
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The point is that Eric's dad never went into Eric's room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When the police went into Eric's room after the tragedy they found all this stuff all over his rooom, it was everywhere.

Eric's dad was not involved in his life. Period. End of story.
So prosecuting his Dad after the fact would have done what? Scared other parents into caring? Punished him even more than he already has been?
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:11 PM   #199
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Eric's dad was not involved in his life. Period. End of story.
That is my point as well.

Yet for some reason you think that some weird law would make this not be the case.

"oh hey, I am pretty apathetic about this parenting thing...but i saw on tv parents can get in trouble if their kids are. That is it...I am going to start getting involved"

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Old 11-13-2013, 12:13 PM   #200
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So prosecuting his Dad after the fact would have done what? Scared other parents into caring? Punished him even more than he already has been?
No, the possibility of prosecuting Eric's father would have perhaps PREVENTED this tragedy. That's the point.
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No, the possibility of prosecuting Eric's father would have perhaps PREVENTED this tragedy. That's the point.
If the parent is not in the kid's life.....the threat of prosecution is not going to force them to be.
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:14 PM   #202
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That is my point as well.

Yet for some reason you think that some weird law would make this not be the case.

"oh hey, I am pretty apathetic about this parenting thing...but i saw on tv parents can get in trouble if their kids are. That is it...I am going to start getting involved"

Eric Harris had a police record buddy, you tell me what kind of warning signs are needed for a parent to be involved.

good lord you are a class A moron.
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:14 PM   #203
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If Harris's father thought he might end up in prison because his son was a total psycho? I think he would have done something more. Hell, even if he got into Eric's face and Eric killed him, then Eric would have never been able to do the Columbine thing.

Totally logical.
No, I still completely disagree. Your typical parent would completely deny their own child has a problem as long as possible. In many cases the parents would deny it even after the child had done something horrible.

I have no idea where you're going with the Eric killing Dad line though... WTF?
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:14 PM   #204
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If the parent is not in the kid's life.....the threat of prosecution is not going to force them to be.
How do you know?
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:16 PM   #205
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No, I still completely disagree. Your typical parent would completely deny their own child has a problem as long as possible. In many cases the parents would deny it even after the child had done something horrible.

I have no idea where you're going with the Eric killing Dad line though... WTF?
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[quote=|Zach|;10183761]What would we have intervened?

I have no doubt if he knew this rule was around he wouldnt have thought it applied to him.

He obviously wasn't listening to his kid.[/quote]

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Eric Harris had a police record buddy, you tell me what kind of warning signs are needed for a parent to be involved.

good lord you are a class A moron.
The points you make keep backing up my main point.

You keep bringing up factors that would be MUCH more likely for a parent to get involved than a law.
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I was hoping I wasn't the only one.
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