****OFFICIAL 2013 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD****

[-King-]

2012-2013 NBA Champions:

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

And Wilbon just made a great point, how bad do the Grizzlies miss Rudy Gay? Prince is pretty much worthless

I'm not sure they miss Rudy Gay and his inefficiency that much. After all, he was taking away offense from Gasol, Randolph, and Conley and they've still gone further without him than they ever did with him. The fact that they've replaced him with a bunch of bad players who can't hit open shots or are flawed in some other way (like Pondexter), though, that's a real problem. I've thought all postseason long how much better Memphis could be with a couple of actual shooters that Gasol and Conley could pass to. If they rectify that in the offseason, they'll be truly elite and almost impossible to stop.

At the beginning of this series, I picked the Spurs due to their depth, experience, and coaching compared to Memphis and I think all of those qualities are showing themselves now.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Spurs are a fantastic organization. One of the best ran and underappreciated in all of pro sports. They are basically the Patriots of the NBA. They just win....every single year.

Yes. I'm so glad I wanted to be different from everyone when I was a kid and chose the Spurs over the Bulls.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by KC native

Posts like this are what show you don't know shit about basketball. The only debatable HOFer is Manu (and it's a bad debate but arguable). Tony Parker's numbers are some of the best for a PG. Timmy is a shoe in. Best 4 man to ever play the game.

Yep. I'm no Spurs fan, but there's no question that all three of them are HOFs. Manu's contributions at the world/Olympic level (gold in Athens, 2004) with Argentina do count.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by -King-

Dude Rashard Lewis shouldn't even be in the league. There's a reason hes gotten less than 5 minutes in all the playoff games combined.

The heat have 3 players on their bench that have the same exact role. Miller, Allen, and Battier have the same role on the team. Haslem is decent. But that's about it.
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I want to isolate this statement.

"Miller, Allen, and Battier have the same role on the team."

Do you want to stand by this statement, and claim that you are actually getting the upperhand in a conversation about basketball?

I will give you one opportunity to backtrack from that statement, out of courtesy.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'm not sure they miss Rudy Gay and his inefficiency that much. After all, he was taking away offense from Gasol, Randolph, and Conley and they've still gone further without him than they ever did with him. The fact that they've replaced him with a bunch of bad players who can't hit open shots or are flawed in some other way (like Pondexter), though, that's a real problem. I've thought all postseason long how much better Memphis could be with a couple of actual shooters that Gasol and Conley could pass to. If they rectify that in the offseason, they'll be truly elite and almost impossible to stop.

At the beginning of this series, I picked the Spurs due to their depth, experience, and coaching compared to Memphis and I think all of those qualities are showing themselves now.

All good points. Wilbon's point was that Rudy helped with spacing and spreading the floor out. I doubt if the Grizzlies miss all of shot taking though. They definitely need a scorer though.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I want to isolate this statement.

"Miller, Allen, and Battier have the same role on the team."

Do you want to stand by this statement, and claim that you are actually getting the upperhand in a conversation about basketball?

I will give you one opportunity to backtrack from that statement, out of courtesy.

Offensively their role is the same. The only difference is defensively Battier plays the 4

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

All good points. Wilbon's point was that Rudy helped with spacing and spreading the floor out. I doubt if the Grizzlies miss all of shot taking though. They definitely need a scorer though.

Someone like Kevin Martin could be very effective for Memphis.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Offensively their role is the same. The only difference is defensively Battier plays the 4

That's not what he said. I'm giving him an opportunity to walk it back.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

That's not what he said. I'm giving him an opportunity to walk it back.

How are their roles different? They're all on the floor because of their 3 point shooting ability. That's pretty much it.
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[KC native]

#2 for all time play off double doubles. Timeless Timmy Duncan

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by KC native

#2 for all time play off double doubles. Timeless Timmy Duncan

I always admired Duncun since he's modern day Bill Russell. The consummate team player

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Yeah, we were spoiled with how many basketball legends were playing in the 80's and 90's. I know I took what Jordan did for granted because I grew up watching him and expected the next great BB player to do the same thing.

There are a lot of outstanding players in the Association right now. We may not know who all will end up in the Hall, but there are outstanding players and there will continue to be outstanding players. I

I've been watching the NBA since 1984 or so. There have been some down times, but there will always be an influx of excellent talent.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

There are a lot of outstanding players in the Association right now. We may not know who all will end up in the Hall, but there are outstanding players and there will continue to be outstanding players. I

I've been watching the NBA since 1984 or so. There have been some down times, but there will always be an influx of excellent talent.

MJ himself said that the league is a mere shadow to the overall (including role players) competition that was present in the 80's

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

MJ himself said that the league is a mere shadow to the overall (including role players) competition that was present in the 80's

Why wouldn't he say that? Doesn't really mean anything.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides

Why wouldn't he say that? Doesn't really mean anything.

it means that the skill level has diminished greatly. The league average in FTs are absurdly lower in comparison to the said eras I mentioned