Football Chip Kelly is close to a deal to become the Browns coach - Page 6

Pepe Silvia · 01-04-2013, 08:57 PM

This has fail written all over it imho.

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-04-2013, 09:05 PM

You know what is funniest about this....Wheeden. Nuff said.

Does anyone REALLY care at this point--especially, tonight???

**Canofbier** · 01-04-2013, 09:29 PM

I hope that the rumors a out him going to Cleveland are true; his already boom-or-bust nature will be accentuated by the Browns. If he succeeds, we'll get to witness the unlikely rise of a dynasty. If he fails, we can feel assured as fans that our owner made the right decision with Reid. It's win-win.

Mother****erJones · 01-04-2013, 10:34 PM

Jesus they jumped the gun again

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Sources: Kelly meets Browns, continues tour http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88...delphia-eagles …
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**Buehler445** · 01-04-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not ready for the risk. I was this close --><-- to just saying "**** it" and walking away for good.

I don't want to see experiments right now. I want to see them build up a consistent winner and get to a Super Bowl soon.

I hear you dude. I was about done too, but it was all Pioli. Pioli is gone and I want a mother****ing Super Bowl. I want to beat everybody's ****ing ass every ****ing game.

We've been down the "proven" route and it's gotten us a whole lot of not a goddamn thing.

Chip Kelly is the boom or bust guy. If he's as smart as he thinks he is, win. If not, there's the ****ing door, assface.

Weren't you the one that had in your sig something about a treadmill of mediocrity? You're also infamous for the quote of "Better than bad does not equal good." I'm not trashing on you, I just want the smartest guy in the league, and Reid smells like mediocrity.

That being said, there are a lot of good points to not want Chip Kelly. But still, I want Super Bowl wins, not mediocrity, and I can't help but think mediocrity is where we are headed.

htismaqe · 01-05-2013, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I hear you dude. I was about done too, but it was all Pioli. Pioli is gone and I want a mother****ing Super Bowl. I want to beat everybody's ****ing ass every ****ing game.

We've been down the "proven" route and it's gotten us a whole lot of not a goddamn thing.

Chip Kelly is the boom or bust guy. If he's as smart as he thinks he is, win. If not, there's the ****ing door, assface.

Weren't you the one that had in your sig something about a treadmill of mediocrity? You're also infamous for the quote of "Better than bad does not equal good." I'm not trashing on you, I just want the smartest guy in the league, and Reid smells like mediocrity.

That being said, there are a lot of good points to not want Chip Kelly. But still, I want Super Bowl wins, not mediocrity, and I can't help but think mediocrity is where we are headed.

14 seasons, 10 playoff wins, 5 appearances in the NFCC, and 1 appearance in the Super Bowl smells like mediocrity.

**Buehler445** · 01-05-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

14 seasons, 10 playoff wins, 5 appearances in the NFCC, and 1 appearance in the Super Bowl smells like mediocrity.

I think if he were here for 14 years without a Super Bowl, there would be a lot of talk about mediocrity. Maybe not. I don't know.

It just sounds a lot like the stuff we've heard before. "Proven Winner" "Sure Thing" "Best Coach on the Market".

All of it.

I'm still optimistic. There are a ton of good things that could happen out of all this, but I'm worried.

htismaqe · 01-05-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I think if he were here for 14 years without a Super Bowl, there would be a lot of talk about mediocrity. Maybe not. I don't know.

It just sounds a lot like the stuff we've heard before. "Proven Winner" "Sure Thing" "Best Coach on the Market".

All of it.

I'm still optimistic. There are a ton of good things that could happen out of all this, but I'm worried.

Sure. But he hasn't been here 14 DAYS.

Like I said before, if a coach hasn't won it in 5 years it's time to move on. Look at Reid's first 5 years. Pretty impressive.

Crush · 01-05-2013, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Jesus they jumped the gun again

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Sources: Kelly meets Browns, continues tour http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88...delphia-eagles …
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Ian Rapoport is apparently a Nick Athan incarnation. The guy is wrong about everything and piggybacks off both Schefter and Mortensen. This guy was still beating the Ferentz drum as late as Thursday.

PhillyChiefFan · 01-05-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Jesus they jumped the gun again

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Sources: Kelly meets Browns, continues tour http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88...delphia-eagles …
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Yea, bout tired of this shit of trying to be the first to break news when it's not even close to the facts.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-05-2013, 12:15 AM

Last time it was ESPN/Shefter that got ahead of themselves.

Mother****erJones · 01-05-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Last time it was ESPN/Shefter that got ahead of themselves.

No they were basing it off NFL network reports I thought

htismaqe · 01-05-2013, 09:16 AM

I heard a couple more interesting points this morning.

Chip Kelly is a master motivator, we all know that. But can he motivate players that are making as much money as he is? Some of his methods likely won't work and beyond that, some of his practice methods MIGHT NOT BE ALLOWED under the current CBA.

We've also discussed his offense and how it relies on spacing. What I hadn't considered (and didn't realize until I saw some stuff on it this morning) is that his offense relies heavily on running to the wide side one field, aka MORE space. The hash marks in the NFL are different than in college. The NFL field is much more balanced - the wide side of the field isn't nearly as wide.

**Canofbier** · 01-05-2013, 11:45 AM

FWIW, Oregon's Kelly Close to Browns Deal is still a top headline on NFL.com.

O.city · 01-05-2013, 12:16 PM

Statistics say that Reid has a much better chance of winning a SB here than Gruden or Cowher. Things go sour when you are in the same place that long.

I'm willing to give him, like the previous regime, enough time to prove one way or another.

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Canofbier ¡RIOS MIO! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Minneapolis Casino cash: $5876981	I hope that the rumors a out him going to Cleveland are true; his already boom-or-bust nature will be accentuated by the Browns. If he succeeds, we'll get to witness the unlikely rise of a dynasty. If he fails, we can feel assured as fans that our owner made the right decision with Reid. It's win-win.
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I heard a couple more interesting points this morning. Chip Kelly is a master motivator, we all know that. But can he motivate players that are making as much money as he is? Some of his methods likely won't work and beyond that, some of his practice methods MIGHT NOT BE ALLOWED under the current CBA. We've also discussed his offense and how it relies on spacing. What I hadn't considered (and didn't realize until I saw some stuff on it this morning) is that his offense relies heavily on running to the wide side one field, aka MORE space. The hash marks in the NFL are different than in college. The NFL field is much more balanced - the wide side of the field isn't nearly as wide.
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