****Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread ****

[BigRedChief]

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014?

• This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
• Reached three World Series in the last decade, and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
• Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.
• Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
• 60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
• Only one of the last 14 seasons has been a losing one.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Cardinals Working On Deal With A.J. Pierzynski
By Jeff Todd [July 25, 2014 at 8:09pm CDT]
The Cardinals are working on a deal with free agent catcher A.J. Pierzynski, reports Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (via Twitter). The recently-added George Kottaras would be the odd man out if a deal gets done, which Goold implies is likely.

[bdj23]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Cardinals Working On Deal With A.J. Pierzynski
By Jeff Todd [July 25, 2014 at 8:09pm CDT]
The Cardinals are working on a deal with free agent catcher A.J. Pierzynski, reports Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (via Twitter). The recently-added George Kottaras would be the odd man out if a deal gets done, which Goold implies is likely.

Srs?

[Captain Obvious]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Cardinals Working On Deal With A.J. Pierzynski
By Jeff Todd [July 25, 2014 at 8:09pm CDT]
The Cardinals are working on a deal with free agent catcher A.J. Pierzynski, reports Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (via Twitter). The recently-added George Kottaras would be the odd man out if a deal gets done, which Goold implies is likely.

That's one classy signing.

[Marco Polo]

We do need some fire in the club house. He could spark it.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I've got a bad feeling that Taveras is not going to get a fair shot to get going. They are ****ing up a top level prospect. We are 101 games into the season. This is not a "slump" for Craig. Matheny says OT doesn't need playing time to get going. But Delsaco does? WTF?

From MLB.com
http://www.mlb.com/news/article/stl/...&vkey=news_stl

ST. LOUIS -- When the Cardinals summoned top prospect Oscar Taveras from Triple-A Memphis for the second time this season, it came with a promise of playing time but not with the guarantee of it coming every day. But nearly a month into this second big league stay, the organization is beginning to re-evaluate whether keeping Taveras on the Major League roster is best for him in both the short and long term.


Manager Mike Matheny has had the task of trying to fill three outfield spots with five players -- Matt Holliday, Jon Jay, Peter Bourjos, Allen Craig and Taveras. Bourjos has fallen to the back of the pack, while Craig and Taveras have essentially formed a timeshare in right field as Matheny tries to get both players hitting. The Cards don't consider center field a viable place to play Taveras regularly.


The growing concern, though, is that by continuing to commit steady playing time to Craig, the Cardinals are not giving Taveras sufficient opportunity to jump-start his bat. It's a dilemma, general manager John Mozeliak said, that is likely to soon require change.


"He is still somebody that we view as a prospect, and at some point he's going to need to play more," Mozeliak said of Taveras, ranked by MLB.com as the Cards' best prospect. "Whether that is here or back in the Minors, for his development, getting at-bats is important.


"At the Major League level, I understand that you have to try to go with the hot bat -- or in this case to try and get both guys going. It's not an easy task. As you can imagine, it's a fine balance between sitting and playing. Currently, it's not a great situation for either one. Hopefully, in the next week or two, it might find a way to be resolved. If not, there are obviously some answers to help create playing time."


Taveras' production in the Majors has been underwhelming, as he's hit .205/.239/.277 with four extra-base hits, five RBIs, four walks and 14 strikeouts in 27 games across both of his stints in St. Louis. The only home run Taveras has hit came in his debut.


Upon being recalled at the end of June, Taveras started five of the team's next six games. He went 3-for-18 during that stretch. Since July 6, Craig has started seven games in right field; Taveras has started the other five. That means Taveras, because of the All-Star break and other off-days, has started only five games over the last 18 days. That sums to 29 at-bats.
"I think there are benefits to being here," Matheny said when asked about how he's managing playing time for the 22-year-old outfielder. "There are other times where you do have players who need playing time. I don't necessarily think that is where Oscar is right now. We need to get him locked in right now, and hopefully that can happen with opportunities, whether it's as a pinch-hitter or when he gets starts. He is going to get opportunities."


But that still begs the critical question: How likely is it that Taveras will take off if he's not playing regularly? Keep in mind that this is the first time in his professional career that he is not an everyday player.


"This game is about playing, so at some point, I do think getting at-bats are important," Mozeliak said. "We said that in the month of July, if he was getting two or three games a week, that would be OK. But you bake in the All-Star break, then take into account that he is not getting a lot of at-bats at the moment -- it is something that we, internally, have to reflect on."
Both Matheny and Mozeliak agree that Taveras has little left to accomplish in Triple-A, where the outfielder hit .318/.370/.502 with 18 doubles, eight homers and 49 RBIs in 62 games. Even if there aren't developmental needs, though, there would be everyday at-bats.


The other option would be to play Taveras more regularly in the Majors, a move that would directly cut into Craig's opportunities. Craig has arguably been the team's biggest disappointment to date this season. Expected to anchor the lineup as the team's cleanup hitter, he has been mired in a four-month battle to right his swing.


July has been his worst month yet, as Craig will enter a weekend series in Chicago just 6-for-41 with two extra-base hits and four RBIs over 12 games. The Cardinals are hesitant to unplug him from the lineup altogether, because they know what he's done before.


"It's not unreasonable to see him becoming more productive," Mozeliak said.


"We'd love to see that come around," added Matheny, "and for him to have the kind of second half that we're more accustomed to seeing."
And so the conundrum continues, as it will until Matheny commits to one player or Mozeliak steps in and transfers Taveras back to Memphis to give him a chance to play. Such a move is unlikely to happen until early August, but it is one that is no longer implausible.

This is really pissing me off. OT is 3-6 in his last at bats. 2 of those pinch hits. Including the go ahead RBI yesterday. What happened to playing the hot hand Matheny?

Meanwhile while everyone on both teams was hitting the long ball yesterday, Craig goes 0-3 with 2 KO's. Come on Man!

[Mi_chief_fan]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Cardinals Working On Deal With A.J. Pierzynski
By Jeff Todd [July 25, 2014 at 8:09pm CDT]
The Cardinals are working on a deal with free agent catcher A.J. Pierzynski, reports Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (via Twitter). The recently-added George Kottaras would be the odd man out if a deal gets done, which Goold implies is likely.

RIP 2014 St. Louis Cardinals. Nice work by Mike Matheny, Michigan Man.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Matheny is an idiot piece of shit, but Mabry and Lilliquist are just as bad. This coaching staff is an abomination from stem to stern.

[ChiefsCountry]

Giants just traded for Peavy.

[Miles]

New asshole catcher getting a few hits.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Giants just traded for Peavy.

Depending where you read it seems like the Giants didn't give up too much and only on the hook for $2M.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Miles

New asshole catcher getting a few hits.

I don't know anything about the guy. What did he do?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I don't know anything about the guy. What did he do?

Pierzynski has long been known as one of the biggest dicks in baseball. Usually, it's directed at the other team, but he can be a handful. That said, he's a better teammate than Kottaras, who is not only a professional asshole, but a bad teammate, and a shit player.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Pierzynski has long been known as one of the biggest dicks in baseball. Usually, it's directed at the other team, but he can be a handful. That said, he's a better teammate than Kottaras, who is not only a professional asshole, but a bad teammate, and a shit player.

Well there has to be a negative reason why a veteran player is still available at this time of the year. We gave up nothing. He and everybody knows its Molina's team when he comes off the DL. He can't whine about playing time even if he tears it up when Molina comes off the DL.

It's not like the guy could come in and destroy the great team chemistry that we had going. Maybe he comes in and gets hot and helps us. All he has to do is hit .230 and he will be better than Cruz.

[Hootie]

Michael Barrett really likes AJ Pierzynski

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Well there has to be a negative reason why a veteran player is still available at this time of the year. We gave up nothing. He and everybody knows its Molina's team when he comes off the DL.

It's not like the guy could come in and destroy the great team chemistry that we had going. Maybe he comes in and gets hot and helps us. All he has to do is hit .230 and he will be better than Cruz.

I have no problem with them signing him. They should have signed him instead of Kottaras. He's better at handling a pitching staff, and his bat has a touch of pop left in it.

I've never understood why the Cardinals have kept Tony Cruz around instead of playing veteran roulette. Guys like Gerald Laird at least belong on a ML roster. Then again, this is the same team that sent up Descalso in a do-or-die AB in the 9th on Friday.