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Old 05-06-2014, 09:04 AM   #1
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Might as well trade Houston too.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:25 PM   #2
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Might as well trade Houston too.
Houston is a viable trade option.

He got his sacks in bunches against rookies last season. When he faced regular, experienced tackles, he disappeared. He can be upgraded and we won't get saddled with a massive contract that he'll most likely be looking for.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:32 PM   #3
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Houston is a viable trade option.

He got his sacks in bunches against rookies last season. When he faced regular, experienced tackles, he disappeared. He can be upgraded and we won't get saddled with a massive contract that he'll most likely be looking for.
Might as well trade Poe too. He got half his sacks off a rookie C and another 1.5 against the worst team in the league and didn't get any sacks the 2nd half of the season.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:40 PM   #4
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Houston is a viable trade option.

He got his sacks in bunches against rookies last season. When he faced regular, experienced tackles, he disappeared. He can be upgraded and we won't get saddled with a massive contract that he'll most likely be looking for.

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Old 05-06-2014, 08:42 PM   #5
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Houston is a viable trade option.

He got his sacks in bunches against rookies last season. When he faced regular, experienced tackles, he disappeared. He can be upgraded and we won't get saddled with a massive contract that he'll most likely be looking for.
he also gets double teamed or chipped almost every ****in play but Tyson Jackson was useless on his side as a pass rusher in 1 on 1 matchups so it didnt matter

bob sutton also drops him into coverage too much because WE HAVE NO ****ING pass covering LBers besides DJ and still ****ing dont. Thanks Joe Mays, so Houston drops way more than he should. When they cut Tamba and Houston becomes the full time rushbacker your post becomes moot
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:11 PM   #6
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:54 PM   #7
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Houston is a viable trade option.

He got his sacks in bunches against rookies last season. When he faced regular, experienced tackles, he disappeared. He can be upgraded and we won't get saddled with a massive contract that he'll most likely be looking for.
He didn't disappear. What pass rusher is going to get to the QB when he knows to target Cooper and Lewis the instant the ball is snapped? Not to knock on Cooper, because he will get better, but the first season he had a bullseye on his back.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:07 AM   #8
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He didn't disappear. What pass rusher is going to get to the QB when he knows to target Cooper and Lewis the instant the ball is snapped? Not to knock on Cooper, because he will get better, but the first season he had a bullseye on his back.
What teams did to us in the second half of the season was simple.

Double team Poe in the middle.

Force Hali and Houston to rush wide.

Single block our ineffective 4th man on the DL.

Go for quick hitting routes and throw it deep against our inexperienced guy in Cooper or anyone that Lewis is lined up against.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:16 AM   #9
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What teams did to us in the second half of the season was simple.

Double team Poe in the middle.

Force Hali and Houston to rush wide.

Single block our ineffective 4th man on the DL.

Go for quick hitting routes and throw it deep against our inexperienced guy in Cooper or anyone that Lewis is lined up against.
I really haven't chimed in about Cooper, but the fact is, he was almost always in pretty good position when he was getting picked on.

The failure was almost always the fact that he he had no help over the top.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:35 AM   #10
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I really haven't chimed in about Cooper, but the fact is, he was almost always in pretty good position when he was getting picked on.

The failure was almost always the fact that he he had no help over the top.
Yeah, but sometimes he would lose track of his guy and kind of fall off when he was locked up going deep. That was especially evident against Decker and Thomas; he did the same things earlier in the season a few times but those QBs didn't have anywhere near the same precision and timing that Manning or Rivers had. The encouraging thing to me though, is that I think he did improve after that slump in play. He's one of the few rookies from last season that I would be confident in saying that he will definitely be an improved player in 2014.

The other two would be Eric Fisher and Knile Davis. I like Catapano but I want to see him steal more snaps and I'm not quite sure how he'll carry his extra 20+ pounds. Kelce and Commings are a toss up at this point.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:39 AM   #11
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Yeah, but sometimes he would lose track of his guy and kind of fall off when he was locked up going deep. That was especially evident against Decker and Thomas; he did the same things earlier in the season a few times but those QBs didn't have anywhere near the same precision and timing that Manning or Rivers had. The encouraging thing to me though, is that I think he did improve after that slump in play. He's one of the few rookies from last season that I would be confident in saying that he will definitely be an improved player in 2014.
There are a couple of times when he did lose track, but that was really no more than a handful of plays.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:46 AM   #12
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I really haven't chimed in about Cooper, but the fact is, he was almost always in pretty good position when he was getting picked on.

The failure was almost always the fact that he he had no help over the top.
Exactly, and the issue started causing them to adjust how they covered their guy because they knew that there was essentially no help over the top.
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