KU Missouri town calls on KU to drop Jayhawks mascot - Page 4

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 07:31 AM

I thought this was an interesting read....

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/18...ylink=misearch

OSCEOLA, Mo. | City officials in Osceola, a southwest Missouri town of about 950 people, are asking the University of Kansas to drop its "Jayhawk" mascot because the name refers to a group of domestic terrorists that nearly destroyed the city 150 years ago.

In a resolution approved earlier this week, the Osceola Board of Alderman also asks the University of Missouri to educate Kansas on the history of the "Border War" and let people know there was more to it than William Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kan., in 1863.

Resentment still runs deep for residents of Osceola over the Sept. 22-23, 1861, siege by U.S. Sen. Jim Lane and a band of about 2,000 "Jayhawkers" that left a dozen men executed on the town square and the community itself a smoking ruin

"I grew up here, and it is all I heard about when I was attending grade school and high school," Mayor Larry Hutsler told the Columbia Daily Tribune. "Everyone knew who was responsible."

In the resolution, the city condemns "the celebration of this murderous gang of terrorists by an institution of 'higher education' in such a brazen and malicious manner."

Osceola had a population of about 2,500 before the 1861 attack, but fewer than 200 remained afterward. The city has never had as many residents as it did before the raid.

The attack was only one of several deadly episodes in the "Border War" over slavery between the two states. Lane was a radical abolitionist who formed his own militia at the outbreak of the Civil War and used it to punish Missourians.

When Quantrill's band attacked Lawrence — Lane's hometown — two years after the Jayhawkers' raid in Missouri, many of the guerrillas shouted "Remember Osceola" as they were killing about 200 of the city's men and burning down a quarter of the town.

The Osceola resolution asks Missourians to stop spelling Kansas or KU with a capital letter, since "neither is a proper name or a proper place." In the resolution, both words are lowercase throughout.

Rick Reed of Osceola, who brought the resolution to the aldermen, doesn't think the measure will persuade the University of Kansas to dump the Jayhawk.

"I don't expect them to do anything," he said. "They are so arrogant and uppity."

A Kansas spokeswoman downplayed the Civil War origin of the school's mascot.

"A Jayhawk is a blue bird with a red head and a big yellow beak that wears boots," spokeswoman Jill Jess said in an email to the Daily Tribune. "It would be hard to confuse it with anyone with terrorist intent, though we admit we have been terrorizing the Tigers on the basketball court for some time. Tigers have been known to kill people. Bears, too."

Missouri's Tigers mascot also has Civil War roots, named for the Unionist militia set up to protect Columbia from guerrilla raids, the newspaper reported.

Radar Chief · 09-19-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam

The best thing to ever come out of the boarder wars, is the movie Out Law Josey Wales

:spit: I reckon so.

**CrazyPhuD** · 09-19-2011, 02:10 PM

Anyone else feel like the entrance to the town says

Welcome to Osceola
Now get off my lawn!

Ebolapox · 09-19-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

Is that the town where they filmed the movie Winter Bone? It really does not matter that movie pretty much sums up most of the state~

it's a little surprising to see you trolling so hard. you generally always stay away from the smaque.

Ebolapox · 09-19-2011, 02:27 PM

the only good thing in osceola is the cheese.

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

Is that the town where they filmed the movie Winter Bone? It really does not matter that movie pretty much sums up most of the state~

I must live in a bubble. I hate that my state is represented best by something like that. I don't see it, I don't know anyone who uses it (let alone makes it), and I don't see that many areas where people are so "back woods".

**RNR** · 09-19-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

it's a little surprising to see you trolling so hard. you generally always stay away from the smaque.

I do but bullshit like this pisses me off a tad~

Ebolapox · 09-19-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

I must live in a bubble. I hate that my state is represented best by something like that. I don't see it, I don't know anyone who uses it (let alone makes it), and I don't see that many areas where people are so "back woods".

I went to high school in the county that winter's bone was based on (christian county) and can assure you that, while it's no metropolis, like 99% of things in life, it's not as it's portrayed on tv.

Ebolapox · 09-19-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I do but bullshit like this pisses me off a tad~

you think they're being serious? take a chill pill and consider the source.

**RNR** · 09-19-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

I must live in a bubble. I hate that my state is represented best by something like that. I don't see it, I don't know anyone who uses it (let alone makes it), and I don't see that many areas where people are so "back woods".

That was a cheapshot on the state, but I have traveled around some of the sticks in your state and that movie is not far off from the backwoods. My brother and I bought a semi truck load of firewood one year from some backwoods people and I was glad to get out of there. I also worked in Bela Vista Arkansas for awhile which is right on the boarder. There are some strange folks around them parts. If you cater to the klan you will fit right in...I dont~

Ebolapox · 09-19-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

That was a cheapshot on the state, but I have traveled around some of the sticks in your state and that movie is not far off from the backwoods. My brother and I bought a semi truck load of firewood one year from some backwoods people and I was glad to get out of there. I also worked in Bela Vista Arkansas for awhile which is right on the boarder. There are some strange folks around them parts. If you cater to the klan you will fit right in...I dont~

dude, that's the case in half of the states in the union. to single out a single state because it fits your pro-KU purposes is pointless. hell, there are some areas of kansas that fit that profile PERFECTLY.

LiveSteam · 09-19-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

That was a cheapshot on the state, but I have traveled around some of the sticks in your state and that movie is not far off from the backwoods. My brother and I bought a semi truck load of firewood one year from some backwoods people and I was glad to get out of there. I also worked in Bela Vista Arkansas for awhile which is right on the boarder. There are some strange folks around them parts. If you cater to the klan you will fit right in...I dont~

Nothing wrong with McDonald County Missouri.

**RNR** · 09-19-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

dude, that's the case in half of the states in the union. to single out a single state because it fits your pro-KU purposes is pointless. hell, there are some areas of kansas that fit that profile PERFECTLY.

I am not pro KU and I have never met a klan member in Kansas that I am aware of. I am sure they are there, but those I met in the south end of your state were damn right proud of it. Confederate flag flying sheet wearing assholes. It was even worse in north Arkansas~

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

That was a cheapshot on the state, but I have traveled around some of the sticks in your state and that movie is not far off from the backwoods. My brother and I bought a semi truck load of firewood one year from some backwoods people and I was glad to get out of there. I also worked in Bela Vista Arkansas for awhile which is right on the boarder. There are some strange folks around them parts. If you cater to the klan you will fit right in...I dont~

So all of Missouri sucks because of your backwoods experience.

Ebolapox · 09-19-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I am not pro KU and I have never met a klan member in Kansas that I am aware of. I am sure they are there, but those I met in the south end of your state were damn right proud of it. Confderate flag flying sheet wearing assholes. It was even worse in north Arkansas~

so where's your dog in this hunt? that's the whole point of this thread, yeah? forget the rednecks, forget the kluxxers, forget the sports-smaque. this is about the history behind the incident/border war.

**RNR** · 09-19-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

So all of Missouri sucks because of your backwoods experience.

Notice the start of the post, I said it was a cheapshot~

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luv MY LITTLE #15 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $6239600	Missouri town calls on KU to drop Jayhawks mascot I thought this was an interesting read.... http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/18...ylink=misearch OSCEOLA, Mo. \| City officials in Osceola, a southwest Missouri town of about 950 people, are asking the University of Kansas to drop its "Jayhawk" mascot because the name refers to a group of domestic terrorists that nearly destroyed the city 150 years ago. In a resolution approved earlier this week, the Osceola Board of Alderman also asks the University of Missouri to educate Kansas on the history of the "Border War" and let people know there was more to it than William Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kan., in 1863. Resentment still runs deep for residents of Osceola over the Sept. 22-23, 1861, siege by U.S. Sen. Jim Lane and a band of about 2,000 "Jayhawkers" that left a dozen men executed on the town square and the community itself a smoking ruin "I grew up here, and it is all I heard about when I was attending grade school and high school," Mayor Larry Hutsler told the Columbia Daily Tribune. "Everyone knew who was responsible." In the resolution, the city condemns "the celebration of this murderous gang of terrorists by an institution of 'higher education' in such a brazen and malicious manner." Osceola had a population of about 2,500 before the 1861 attack, but fewer than 200 remained afterward. The city has never had as many residents as it did before the raid. The attack was only one of several deadly episodes in the "Border War" over slavery between the two states. Lane was a radical abolitionist who formed his own militia at the outbreak of the Civil War and used it to punish Missourians. When Quantrill's band attacked Lawrence — Lane's hometown — two years after the Jayhawkers' raid in Missouri, many of the guerrillas shouted "Remember Osceola" as they were killing about 200 of the city's men and burning down a quarter of the town. The Osceola resolution asks Missourians to stop spelling Kansas or KU with a capital letter, since "neither is a proper name or a proper place." In the resolution, both words are lowercase throughout. Rick Reed of Osceola, who brought the resolution to the aldermen, doesn't think the measure will persuade the University of Kansas to dump the Jayhawk. "I don't expect them to do anything," he said. "They are so arrogant and uppity." A Kansas spokeswoman downplayed the Civil War origin of the school's mascot. "A Jayhawk is a blue bird with a red head and a big yellow beak that wears boots," spokeswoman Jill Jess said in an email to the Daily Tribune. "It would be hard to confuse it with anyone with terrorist intent, though we admit we have been terrorizing the Tigers on the basketball court for some time. Tigers have been known to kill people. Bears, too." Missouri's Tigers mascot also has Civil War roots, named for the Unionist militia set up to protect Columbia from guerrilla raids, the newspaper reported.
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