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**luv** · 09-19-2011, 07:31 AM

I thought this was an interesting read....

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/18...ylink=misearch

OSCEOLA, Mo. | City officials in Osceola, a southwest Missouri town of about 950 people, are asking the University of Kansas to drop its "Jayhawk" mascot because the name refers to a group of domestic terrorists that nearly destroyed the city 150 years ago.

In a resolution approved earlier this week, the Osceola Board of Alderman also asks the University of Missouri to educate Kansas on the history of the "Border War" and let people know there was more to it than William Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kan., in 1863.

Resentment still runs deep for residents of Osceola over the Sept. 22-23, 1861, siege by U.S. Sen. Jim Lane and a band of about 2,000 "Jayhawkers" that left a dozen men executed on the town square and the community itself a smoking ruin

"I grew up here, and it is all I heard about when I was attending grade school and high school," Mayor Larry Hutsler told the Columbia Daily Tribune. "Everyone knew who was responsible."

In the resolution, the city condemns "the celebration of this murderous gang of terrorists by an institution of 'higher education' in such a brazen and malicious manner."

Osceola had a population of about 2,500 before the 1861 attack, but fewer than 200 remained afterward. The city has never had as many residents as it did before the raid.

The attack was only one of several deadly episodes in the "Border War" over slavery between the two states. Lane was a radical abolitionist who formed his own militia at the outbreak of the Civil War and used it to punish Missourians.

When Quantrill's band attacked Lawrence — Lane's hometown — two years after the Jayhawkers' raid in Missouri, many of the guerrillas shouted "Remember Osceola" as they were killing about 200 of the city's men and burning down a quarter of the town.

The Osceola resolution asks Missourians to stop spelling Kansas or KU with a capital letter, since "neither is a proper name or a proper place." In the resolution, both words are lowercase throughout.

Rick Reed of Osceola, who brought the resolution to the aldermen, doesn't think the measure will persuade the University of Kansas to dump the Jayhawk.

"I don't expect them to do anything," he said. "They are so arrogant and uppity."

A Kansas spokeswoman downplayed the Civil War origin of the school's mascot.

"A Jayhawk is a blue bird with a red head and a big yellow beak that wears boots," spokeswoman Jill Jess said in an email to the Daily Tribune. "It would be hard to confuse it with anyone with terrorist intent, though we admit we have been terrorizing the Tigers on the basketball court for some time. Tigers have been known to kill people. Bears, too."

Missouri's Tigers mascot also has Civil War roots, named for the Unionist militia set up to protect Columbia from guerrilla raids, the newspaper reported.

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

so where's your dog in this hunt? that's the whole point of this thread, yeah? forget the rednecks, forget the kluxxers, forget the sports-smaque. this is about the history behind the incident/border war.

When do threads ever stay on track.

And it's this reason I hate movies like Winter's Bone.

**RNR** · 09-19-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

so where's your dog in this hunt? that's the whole point of this thread, yeah? forget the rednecks, forget the kluxxers, forget the sports-smaque. this is about the history behind the incident/border war.

I was born and raised in Kansas and there is damn sure two sides to that story. For them to play victim and slam Jayhawkers is silly. They would have a better case if the school went by red legs, and they would still be full of shit~

**Donger** · 09-19-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I am not pro KU and I have never met a klan member in Kansas that I am aware of. I am sure they are there, but those I met in the south end of your state were damn right proud of it. Confederate flag flying sheet wearing assholes. It was even worse in north Arkansas~

Well, confederate flags are somewhat rare in Kansas.

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I was born and raised in Kansas and there is damn sure two sides to that story. For them to play victim and slam Jayhawkers is silly. They would have a better case if the school went by red legs, and they would still be full of shit~

I don't think anyone ever said there wasn't two sides. Even the article itself mentions the attack on Lawrence. I just posted it because I thought it was interesting. I knew of Missouri's attack on Kansas, but I'd never heard of this one. Lawrence is thriving, while Osceola is...well....not. I think whoever said this was done more to raise the awareness and less to actually have anything done about it has the right idea.

**RNR** · 09-19-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Well, confederate flags are somewhat rare in Kansas.

You see them, and I always wonder why they do sport them as it makes them appear as a racist idiot~

**HemiEd** · 09-19-2011, 03:06 PM

I need some help here, as I am not that familiar with the OSCEOLA, Mo. residents. Most of the people I have met in Missouri are pretty bright and reasonable.

Do they really think there is a chance in hell of KU abandoning the Jayhawk?

Really?

|Zach| · 09-19-2011, 03:08 PM

**Donger** · 09-19-2011, 03:09 PM

The Osceola resolution asks Missourians to stop spelling Kansas or KU with a capital letter, since "neither is a proper name or a proper place." In the resolution, both words are lowercase throughout.

|Zach| · 09-19-2011, 03:10 PM

The only thing I know about Osceola was to slow the hell down when I was passing it going to and from college because there were always cops and radar on highways. Oh, and the cheese store.

**007** · 09-19-2011, 03:11 PM

Yes, and the chiefs and Redskins should change their name because it offends the natives.

Frazod · 09-19-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I was born and raised in Kansas and there is damn sure two sides to that story. For them to play victim and slam Jayhawkers is silly. They would have a better case if the school went by red legs, and they would still be full of shit~

You say "red legs" and "Jayhawkers" like there's a difference between them.

Murderous thieves using the abolitionist movement as cover. The. End.

**Bwana** · 09-19-2011, 03:13 PM

Nuke them.........pussys.

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

The only thing I know about Osceola was to slow the hell down when I was passing it going to and from college because there were always cops and radar on highways. Oh, and the cheese store.

I was getting ready to say nearly exactly the same thing. It's a town I drive through (slowing down to the speed limit) on my way to and from KC. I've stopped there for gas before, but I've never even had their cheese.

|Zach| · 09-19-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

I was getting ready to say nearly exactly the same thing. It's a town I drive through (slowing down to the speed limit) on my way to and from KC. I've stopped there for gas before, but I've never even had their cheese.

Me either. I just associate that with the BILLION road signs.

**RNR** · 09-19-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

You say "red legs" and "Jayhawkers" like there's a difference between them.

Murderous thieves using the abolitionist movement as cover. The. End.

in the world known as frazod~

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