Music guitar advice needed.

MOhillbilly · 08-06-2008, 07:12 AM

im gonna get me one. i have nothing better to do, so whats a cheap starter that i wont have to be married to. tapes, books, tuners, ect.
i played piano and violin way back and can read abit of sheet music.

any help is appreciated.

Consistent1 · 08-06-2008, 07:14 AM

How much is cheap to you?

MOhillbilly · 08-06-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Consistent1

How much is cheap to you?

300 and under.

**J Diddy** · 08-06-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

300 and under.

starter guitar you might even check out a pawn shop

go with acoustic it will help you build finger strength and calluses more quickly
make sure it's got decent action ( I like mine set about 1/8-1/4 on the 12th fret

make sure you play it at the store and it sounds good, neck straight fret all the strings up and down the neck to make sure it doesn't have buzz

you can get a decent used one to start with see how you like it then move up to a nicer new more expensive version

BigChiefFan · 08-06-2008, 07:16 AM

Musician's Friend is a great place. The one in Kansas City has dings and dents with alot of the guitars, so you can get them at a discount. Even then, I would plan on paying at least a $250.

MOhillbilly · 08-06-2008, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Musician's Friend is a great place. The one in Kansas City has dings and dents with alot of the guitars, so you can get them at a discount. Even then, I would plan on paying at least a $250.

what about the lower half of the western portion of the state?

BigChiefFan · 08-06-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

what about the lower half of the western portion of the state?

musiciansfriend.com

Consistent1 · 08-06-2008, 07:21 AM

I have a 2007 Reverend Warhawk II HB with a Roland cube 15 amp. That set me back about $650. Here is a link to nice site for this topic. They even have a classified forum to buy used stuff.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/

**J Diddy** · 08-06-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Musician's Friend is a great place. The one in Kansas City has dings and dents with alot of the guitars, so you can get them at a discount. Even then, I would plan on paying at least a $250.

I didn't know there was a physical store in KC

I've just always used there website

MF is da bomb fo sure

BigChiefFan · 08-06-2008, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I didn't know there was a physical store in KC

I've just always used there website

MF is da bomb fo sure

Ya, Musician's friend is great store and they have a huge warehouse off of Randolph road in the northland-it's about a mile or two EAST of the Ameristar Casino.

seclark · 08-06-2008, 07:53 AM

hey mo...check your pm's.
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FAX · 08-06-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Musician's Friend is a great place. The one in Kansas City has dings and dents with alot of the guitars, so you can get them at a discount. Even then, I would plan on paying at least a $250.

Based on the "dings and dents" comment, I think this is the place where my nephew-in-law purchased a Jackson for $175 that is worth at least $1000. It needed about $100 of work, but it was a stunning deal. Apparently the manager/owner? arbitrarily marks down guitars from time to time just to move them out.

If this is the same place, and I think it is, and if I were near the KC area, this is where I would go, Mr. MOhillbilly. Talk to the guys there about which deal is best and tell them, if they don't give you good advice, you'll come back and kill them.

I agree with the idea of starting with an acoustic. If you've played violin in the past, you'll have no problem getting started. Learn the G, C, Am, and D chords, get yourself a hat and a bag of reefer, and you'll be playing practically any rock and blues song ever written in no time. Good luck, peep.

FAX

MOhillbilly · 08-06-2008, 12:01 PM

ya im gonna be up for the opener and later in Oct. ill get one of my cousins to swing me by there.

Jawshco · 08-06-2008, 12:31 PM

I'd recommend a lower end Takamine guitar for acoustic. They sound great and can be had for under $300. But I think you'll probably want to feel the difference of an electric. There are just so many different things you can do with an electric. I'd recommend either a cheap Fender Squire or a low end Ibenez if can get one, and just a small portable amp.

When it comes to learing chords, you should start with the CAGED theory, basically- all major chords follow the same finger, "shapes": C shape, A shape (good to learn both major and minor), G shape (learn the 7th of this chord as well), E shape ( you should know major and minor and 7th in this shape), and the D shape (also know major, minor and 7th shapes). Then to move on the 'other' chords, all you really need to do is to barre one of these shapes and you're pretty much set to move all over the fret board. Barre chords aren't easy, but it's great practice.

Also, if you get bored learing these "big" chords, try just jamming power chords for awhile. They're very simple and prevalent in just about every rock song. It's just root, fifth and sometimes the octave. Simple but effective.

I'm a bassist, so I don't spend too much time playing guitars, but I also recommend those boring scales. They're not too cool to listen to, but they're good know- even if just to have a better understanding how chords work.

Remember to always make your practice time musical and fun!

Stewie · 08-06-2008, 07:19 AM

Yamaha makes a good starter guitar. You're getting an acoustic, I assume.

08-06-2008, 07:12 AM	Topic Starter
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	guitar advice needed. im gonna get me one. i have nothing better to do, so whats a cheap starter that i wont have to be married to. tapes, books, tuners, ect. i played piano and violin way back and can read abit of sheet music. any help is appreciated.
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Consistent1 _____________ Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	I have a 2007 Reverend Warhawk II HB with a Roland cube 15 amp. That set me back about $650. Here is a link to nice site for this topic. They even have a classified forum to buy used stuff. http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/
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08-06-2008, 12:31 PM	#14
Jawshco Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clovis, CA Casino cash: $10004925	I'd recommend a lower end Takamine guitar for acoustic. They sound great and can be had for under $300. But I think you'll probably want to feel the difference of an electric. There are just so many different things you can do with an electric. I'd recommend either a cheap Fender Squire or a low end Ibenez if can get one, and just a small portable amp. When it comes to learing chords, you should start with the CAGED theory, basically- all major chords follow the same finger, "shapes": C shape, A shape (good to learn both major and minor), G shape (learn the 7th of this chord as well), E shape ( you should know major and minor and 7th in this shape), and the D shape (also know major, minor and 7th shapes). Then to move on the 'other' chords, all you really need to do is to barre one of these shapes and you're pretty much set to move all over the fret board. Barre chords aren't easy, but it's great practice. Also, if you get bored learing these "big" chords, try just jamming power chords for awhile. They're very simple and prevalent in just about every rock song. It's just root, fifth and sometimes the octave. Simple but effective. I'm a bassist, so I don't spend too much time playing guitars, but I also recommend those boring scales. They're not too cool to listen to, but they're good know- even if just to have a better understanding how chords work. Remember to always make your practice time musical and fun!
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08-06-2008, 07:19 AM	#15
Stewie MVP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West of the Equator Casino cash: $1739901	Yamaha makes a good starter guitar. You're getting an acoustic, I assume.
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