Chiefs I don't like this game.

Micjones · 11-05-2010, 07:39 AM

I've tried all week to ease my mind about this football game.
Unfortunately, I've been unsuccessful at doing so.

Thus far this year I've seen the Chiefs do two things:
1. Prove that they can play with the best of the best in the NFL.
2. Play well enough to expect them to contend for this division and get a post-season berth.

What they have not done, though, is play well enough on the road to beat a good football team. We failed to capitalize on two great opportunities to win games in Indianapolis and Houston. Good football teams win those games.

If this team is to be taken seriously in the post-season...
We need to beat a good team on the road. The road is where we may very well have to win once the playoffs get started.

When the season started, winning 6 games was my expectation for this team. I thought winning 8 would be the high watermark and would prove we were moving forward in this rebuilding process. Given how well this team has played... I expect them now to win 9-10 games. Winning in Oakland could give us a chance to win 11 and maybe get a home playoff game and a chance at a first-round bye.

I'm not sure why I don't feel good about this matchup in Oakland.
We've played better football teams, on the road, and narrowly missed out on a win.

We're better at running the football.
We're better at stopping the run.
We're better in the Special Teams department.
We're better coached.
With Asomugha out & Lilja back we have an advantage in the passing game.

That's alot to be confident about, but...I just don't feel that way.
Hate to say that.

Cassel and this passing game need to show up on Sunday.
We know both teams are going to pound the ball, but I'm not sure that that's where this game will be won. We're gonna have to have a few big pass plays to sustain drives and keep pace on the scoreboard. If there's anything the Raiders can do, lately, it's score points (92 in the last 2 games). Granted those came against a struggling road team (SEA) and a bad bad Denver team...It's hard to tell just how much the last two weeks mean.

I've tried to tune out the naysayers... Buffalo took Baltimore to the wire too and they needed the extra period as well to win.

I've also tried to turn a deaf ear to Chiefs fans who aren't willing to be honest about the chinks in this team's armor.

We're a good football team...I'm convinced.
Now we need to prove that we're a team that can step into the playoffs and win a big game outside the four walls of Arrowhead Stadium.

Now is as good a time as any.

**mlyonsd** · 11-05-2010, 07:41 AM

I'm very nervous about this game. Oakland has played better as of late.

If KC can get a win there they're legitimate. If not, they are just back to the rebuilding stage.

booyaf2 · 11-05-2010, 07:44 AM

Fellas,
We win this game we're in great shape moving forward to the second half of the season. If we lose this game its not "back to rebuilding", we take care of business, beating the teams we should beat down the stretch, and we can/will still win the west, even if it means a showdown with oakland at the end of the year. This is not the make or break game IMO.

Micjones · 11-05-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I'm very nervous about this game. Oakland has played better as of late.

If KC can get a win there they're legitimate. If not, they are just back to the rebuilding stage.

If we drop this game I'm not sure it suggests that we've been fool's gold thus far this season. They ARE a better team than they have been in past, they're STILL a division rival and this IS a road game.

Micjones · 11-05-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by booyaf2

Fellas,
We win this game we're in great shape moving forward to the second half of the season. If we lose this game its not "back to rebuilding", we take care of business, beating the teams we should beat down the stretch, and we can/will still win the west, even if it means a showdown with oakland at the end of the year. This is not the make or break game IMO.

That's the thing though... At this point I want to see this team do more than just win the division. This division isn't very good this season so that doesn't say as much at we want it to.

I want this team to prove it can win in the post-season by beating a good football team on the road.
And there's no better way to win the division than to stay out in front anyway. Winning puts us out three games.

booyaf2 · 11-05-2010, 07:47 AM

Oakland is playing decent-good football right now. They expect to win at home right now. I don't care if the Pats were at Oakland this weekend, some people would expect the Raiders to be competitive.

Reerun_KC · 11-05-2010, 07:47 AM

Should be a great game....

Oakland has have EVERYTHING go their way the last two weeks... Denver just flat out quit and every pass batted up in the air bounced of 3 guys then Oakland would take it for 60 yards... Just a lot of wierd fluke shit in the Seattle game.. They abused the O Line of Seattle.. IF you can call that a O line...

They are talented, more talented that thier Coaching staff thats for sure...

I say the Chiefs win just on these 3 things alone...

Coaching
Patience on Offense
Disclipline

MOhillbilly · 11-05-2010, 07:48 AM

The raiders are not a good football team. Only way this club goes home w/ a L is if they play sloppy football.

the end.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-05-2010, 07:49 AM

I think I read that you referred to Oakland as a good football team

Dude , Oakland beats themselves , all we have to do is show up.

Micjones · 11-05-2010, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyaf2

Oakland is playing decent-good football right now. They expect to win at home right now. I don't care if the Pats were at Oakland this weekend, some people would expect the Raiders to be competitive.

That's my point. That team is improving.
Beating them does so much for this team's confidence and post-season plight going forward.

booyaf2 · 11-05-2010, 07:49 AM

Winning the division needs to be priority #1 this year. Get a little taste of the playoffs for these young guys (and some of the vets), and build on it so we can be a contender every year. Nobody was planning on winning 12 games this year.

Micjones · 11-05-2010, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I think I read that you referred to Oakland as a good football team

Dude , Oakland beats themselves , all we have to do is show up.

If the coaching staff and team has the same attitude...
We'll head to Denver with three losses on the season.

Last week, alone, was enough to prove that this team CANNOT just throw their helmets onto the field and win. We have to show up and play the game. And play it well.

Micjones · 11-05-2010, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyaf2

Winning the division needs to be priority #1 this year. Get a little taste of the playoffs for these young guys (and some of the vets), and build on it so we can be a contender every year. Nobody was planning on winning 12 games this year.

But if you're in a position to do it... You take advantage of it.
You're ahead of schedule. Take every opportunity to make the most of that chance.

Who expected us to beat the Texans? Not many.
And we showed up and played three inspired quarters of football.
Losing after having played so well to start hurt like Hell.

They can't afford to get caught up in what we were "supposed" or "expected" to be.

**mlyonsd** · 11-05-2010, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones

If we drop this game I'm not sure it suggests that we've been fool's gold thus far this season. They ARE a better team than they have been in past, they're STILL a division rival and this IS a road game.

Oh I agree. And even if we win there we could still be consdiered as rebuilding.

My point is this is one of those games where you have the opportunity to take a giant step forward. Not winning isn't the end of the season but it definitely is a reality check to where you really are.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-05-2010, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones

If the coaching staff and team has the same attitude...
We'll head to Denver with three losses on the season.

Last week, alone, was enough to prove that this team CANNOT just throw their helmets onto the field and win. We have to show up and play the game. And play it well.

Don't worry , I'm pretty sure our coaching staff knows what it takes to beat this piece of shit team. They know this game puts a huge spread between the Chiefs and the rest of the west when we come out with a win.

11-05-2010, 07:39 AM
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	I don't like this game. I've tried all week to ease my mind about this football game. Unfortunately, I've been unsuccessful at doing so. Thus far this year I've seen the Chiefs do two things: 1. Prove that they can play with the best of the best in the NFL. 2. Play well enough to expect them to contend for this division and get a post-season berth. What they have not done, though, is play well enough on the road to beat a good football team. We failed to capitalize on two great opportunities to win games in Indianapolis and Houston. Good football teams win those games. If this team is to be taken seriously in the post-season... We need to beat a good team on the road. The road is where we may very well have to win once the playoffs get started. When the season started, winning 6 games was my expectation for this team. I thought winning 8 would be the high watermark and would prove we were moving forward in this rebuilding process. Given how well this team has played... I expect them now to win 9-10 games. Winning in Oakland could give us a chance to win 11 and maybe get a home playoff game and a chance at a first-round bye. I'm not sure why I don't feel good about this matchup in Oakland. We've played better football teams, on the road, and narrowly missed out on a win. We're better at running the football. We're better at stopping the run. We're better in the Special Teams department. We're better coached. With Asomugha out & Lilja back we have an advantage in the passing game. That's alot to be confident about, but...I just don't feel that way. Hate to say that. Cassel and this passing game need to show up on Sunday. We know both teams are going to pound the ball, but I'm not sure that that's where this game will be won. We're gonna have to have a few big pass plays to sustain drives and keep pace on the scoreboard. If there's anything the Raiders can do, lately, it's score points (92 in the last 2 games). Granted those came against a struggling road team (SEA) and a bad bad Denver team...It's hard to tell just how much the last two weeks mean. I've tried to tune out the naysayers... Buffalo took Baltimore to the wire too and they needed the extra period as well to win. I've also tried to turn a deaf ear to Chiefs fans who aren't willing to be honest about the chinks in this team's armor. We're a good football team...I'm convinced. Now we need to prove that we're a team that can step into the playoffs and win a big game outside the four walls of Arrowhead Stadium. Now is as good a time as any.
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11-05-2010, 07:41 AM	#2
mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $1653762	I'm very nervous about this game. Oakland has played better as of late. If KC can get a win there they're legitimate. If not, they are just back to the rebuilding stage.
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11-05-2010, 07:44 AM	#3
booyaf2 Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hays KS Casino cash: $1605005	Fellas, We win this game we're in great shape moving forward to the second half of the season. If we lose this game its not "back to rebuilding", we take care of business, beating the teams we should beat down the stretch, and we can/will still win the west, even if it means a showdown with oakland at the end of the year. This is not the make or break game IMO.
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11-05-2010, 07:47 AM	#6
booyaf2 Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hays KS Casino cash: $1605005	Oakland is playing decent-good football right now. They expect to win at home right now. I don't care if the Pats were at Oakland this weekend, some people would expect the Raiders to be competitive.
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11-05-2010, 07:47 AM	#7
Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $8301160	Should be a great game.... Oakland has have EVERYTHING go their way the last two weeks... Denver just flat out quit and every pass batted up in the air bounced of 3 guys then Oakland would take it for 60 yards... Just a lot of wierd fluke shit in the Seattle game.. They abused the O Line of Seattle.. IF you can call that a O line... They are talented, more talented that thier Coaching staff thats for sure... I say the Chiefs win just on these 3 things alone... Coaching Patience on Offense Disclipline
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1680477	I think I read that you referred to Oakland as a good football team Dude , Oakland beats themselves , all we have to do is show up.
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