Chiefs Our next Defensive Coordinator - who do you want? - Page 9

Dante84 · 12-14-2018, 11:59 AM

Who would be the best fit to help us win quick?

Imon Yourside · 12-15-2018, 10:21 AM

Someone lacking the first name Bob and absent of the last name Sutton. What do i win?

chiefzilla1501 · 12-15-2018, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

As much as I like the 3-4 (more LBs, more better), I think we have to go with a 4-3. I agree with both Rabblerouser and IL that it wouldn't be that hard to switch. I haven't watched enough of other teams to make a wise choice on who would be a good DC, but then again, a bag of rocks is better than Sutton. I'm tired of seeing a 5 yard run up the middle as a victory for the D.

That's what's intriguing about Fangio's scheme. He runs a 4-3 under with 3-4 personnel. Our players are a nice fit. Nnadi at the 0-tech, Jones as a 3-tech, Bailey as a 5-tech. Not sure about Hitchens, but O'Daniel is a perfect fit at LB. Best of all, it revolves around OLBs which happens to be our strength.

If I'm reading into Reid's comments this offseason, he doesn't want a 4-3 because he likes speed at OLB. This is a scheme that allows Reid to still keep that without... y'know... settling for Bob Sutton.

ThaVirus · 12-15-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's what's intriguing about Fangio's scheme. He runs a 4-3 under with 3-4 personnel. Our players are a nice fit. Nnadi at the 0-tech, Jones as a 3-tech, Bailey as a 5-tech. Not sure about Hitchens, but O'Daniel is a perfect fit at LB. Best of all, it revolves around OLBs which happens to be our strength.

If I'm reading into Reid's comments this offseason, he doesn't want a 4-3 because he likes speed at OLB. This is a scheme that allows Reid to still keep that without... y'know... settling for Bob Sutton.

4-3 OLBs are generally faster than 3-4 OLBs

Mecca · 12-15-2018, 11:41 AM

Uh yea if you were going for straight out speed you'd be in a 4-3 cause your OLB's can be smaller and faster since they don't take on OT's.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-15-2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

4-3 OLBs are generally faster than 3-4 OLBs

I'm talking OLB vs. a 4-3 DE. He wants his outside linemen to have versatility.

Mecca · 12-15-2018, 11:52 AM

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I'm talking OLB vs. a 4-3 DE. He wants his outside linemen to have versatility.

I'm not sure it makes sense to use that argument when he has DC that won't not play nickel 80% of the time even against heavy run teams with big personnel.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-15-2018, 11:54 AM

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I'm not sure it makes sense to use that argument when he has DC that won't not play nickel 80% of the time even against heavy run teams with big personnel.

I don't defend the defense. Just stating that Reid wants to stay in a 3-4. Unless he's sending smoke signals to protect his guy.

Chiefshrink · 12-15-2018, 12:00 PM

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I don't really love it....
McDermott's D will frustrate the living hell out of us. It's unaggressive zone D which I don't trust to be consistently great for us.

I wanted Mike Zimmer's "Jimmy Johnson" scheme, which makes Rivera a nice fit... but I don't think that has looked so hot with this year's new offense-friendly rules.

The scheme that's killing it right now is the Under scheme. And Fangio runs it out of a 3-4. We need to be running that scheme yesterday.

We need talent and right now we are very limited. Depending on who is on AR's radar they will want certain type players and will that go over with AR and BV and that will be the deciding factor on who they choose IMHO. McDermott makes sense as far as a relational perspective BUT......

**dannybcaitlyn** · 12-15-2018, 10:33 PM

Too bad Greg Williams wouldn’t be a candidate. Love the defensive aggressiveness to close the game.

GloucesterChief · 12-15-2018, 11:30 PM

Andy doesn't fire people when he ought to well should. It is one of his weaknesses as a coach.

Titty Meat · 12-16-2018, 04:08 AM

Locksley from Alabama

**cabletech94** · 12-16-2018, 06:11 AM

we will have sutton as long as we have andy.

the end.

oldman · 12-16-2018, 08:44 AM

I'm hoping that's not the case. Seriously, there comes a time when loyalty to your staff becomes secondary to what's best for the team. If we have another meltdown, surely Andy will see that. I think BS will "retire" after that, Andy will give an emotional speech and Clark will thank him for his service.

gold_and_red · 12-16-2018, 08:55 AM

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I'm hoping that's not the case. Seriously, there comes a time when loyalty to your staff becomes secondary to what's best for the team. If we have another meltdown, surely Andy will see that. I think BS will "retire" after that, Andy will give an emotional speech and Clark will thank him for his service.

Yeah I can see this happening. Credibility and accountability are important especially for this management that has yet to reach the AFCCG, they have zero benefit of doubt.

Chris Meck · 12-16-2018, 11:46 AM

Ben Bloom, Cowboys LB coach. It's time to get some youth and innovation in over on that side of the ball; old guys are rarely innovators. Let's get some new blood in there.

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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	I'm hoping that's not the case. Seriously, there comes a time when loyalty to your staff becomes secondary to what's best for the team. If we have another meltdown, surely Andy will see that. I think BS will "retire" after that, Andy will give an emotional speech and Clark will thank him for his service.
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Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1864910	Ben Bloom, Cowboys LB coach. It's time to get some youth and innovation in over on that side of the ball; old guys are rarely innovators. Let's get some new blood in there.
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