Football NFL Sends Videos to All Teams of Legal/Illegal Hits -- and here it is - Page 5

Amnorix · 10-21-2010, 03:53 PM

see link. The NFL sent this to all teams, instructing all head coaches to show it to all players.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos.../Player-safety

kcfanXIII · 10-22-2010, 08:33 AM

this whole thing is reactionist BULL SHIT. its a violent sport, played by men. this is just another excuse to give the offense more of an advantage then they already have. its simple, you don't want your wide receiver getting hurt because he's running over the middle right through the cross hairs of a defender, don't run him over the middle. its ridiculous to ask a defender to not try to jar the ball loose or make the receiver remember a hit the next time he comes across the middle. JFC, just make it touch or flag football if you are that worried about it.

scenario: 3rd and 7, offense driving in the red zone, and your team is protecting a 4 point lead. a wr runs an 8 yard crossing pattern, and the pass is thrown. the only chance you have to stop them from getting a first down is your FS coming up and knocking snot bubbles out of the WR's nose in an attempt to jar the ball loose. the nfl is now saying it will be flagged, and your FS will be suspended.

this is like telling nascar drivers "its too dangerous to run full throttle so we're gonna put speed limits on you"

Delano · 10-22-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Unknown Vikings player sums up the video:

http://twitpic.com/2zis58

Chris Kluwe - the idiot punter.

Fish · 10-22-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Hovering? Quivering maybe.

What are they going to do in incidents like Byrd had in the game against KC a few years ago? Our QB, Dave Kreig, stepped up and avoided a sandwich between two jets and Byrd was seriously injured.
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A few years ago? Like 18 years?

kcfanXIII · 10-22-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I do sort of.

But tell that to Cleveland. Do you think it's fair that 2 guys get concussions and have to leave the game?

Hell, if I'm a defender and want to win a game, just knock the top receiver out of the game. Without a suspension, that's well worth the $50,000 fine if it means you win the game.

Rodney Harrison is right. Only a suspension is going to make it stop happening.

what i say to cleveland is "tough shit" and quit running routes over the middle. and its not like its easy to just knock someone out of the game. shots to the head being banned i get. but there is no way a defense can be effective without being able to hit someone.

kcfanXIII · 10-22-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

You aren't getting the concept of defensless. A D-Lineman is in a battle from the snap, knows what's in front of him etc...Rarely does a D-lineman or O-lineman get concussion because the most common injuries are people rolling up on their legs.

lineman have more negative longterm effects then skill positions.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

A receiver running a route focused on the ball doesn't necessarily know what's coming and they get smashed high to separate them from the ball. There is a difference.

that is part of the game, and after getting hit once or twice, they know what's coming and won't focus on the ball as much. its called a defensive strategy.

Dayze · 10-22-2010, 09:25 AM

the defenders are screwed; under the current rules, they only chance they have to effect the play is to hit the guy to jar the ball loose. They need lax the PI on defensive players; or extend the 5 yard chuck rule to 10 yards.

Once a WR is beyond 5 yards, the defender has virtually zero chance. I don't blame them for laying the wood on a receiver; it's basically the only time the receiver can be touched.

it's going to be sad when/if the NFL goes this route

vailpass · 10-22-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

NFL teams are expressly prohibited from paying the fine, or reimbursing the player for paying the fine.

The fine is donated to charity. Obviously, it makes no sense to give rich owners license to have their players generate fines while the more cash poor owners get screwed. Way to go trying to turn the NFL into more like MLB baseball, where the rich owners run the show.

Acting like an authority on a subject when in fact you are no such thing is rather poor form.

vailpass · 10-22-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

the defenders are screwed; under the current rules, they only chance they have to effect the play is to hit the guy to jar the ball loose. They need lax the PI on defensive players; or extend the 5 yard chuck rule to 10 yards.

Once a WR is beyond 5 yards, the defender has virtually zero chance. I don't blame them for laying the wood on a receiver; it's basically the only time the receiver can be touched.

it's going to be sad when/if the NFL goes this route

Yep. Get ready to see a whole lot of blown ACLs as the new rules drive hits straight to the knees.

Pablo · 10-22-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I bet Jesus told you to say that.

Relevant post is relevant.

Demonpenz · 10-22-2010, 10:11 AM

I like the violence. I don't way my time and money to see people just running around.

Pablo · 10-22-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I like the violence. I don't way my time and money to see people just running around.

THEN Y DONT U JUST GO WATCH UFC OR SUMFIN IF U JUST WANNA WATCH PPL GET HURT?

Norman Einstein · 10-22-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

A few years ago? Like 18 years?

I guess you missed the point in question. If the same type of incident occured in a game, and two members of the same team hit helmet to helmet and injured one or both of them, would there be a fine an suspension?

Remember, in the video it said the whole fault was on the guy hitting. In the case I noted the QB stepped up into the pocket and the two jets crashed. Deberg's fault for moving? Byrd's fault for aiming in a manner unfitting of the new rule?

Just taking a circumstance from way back and asking how the same type of incident would be treated under this new rule.

Norman Einstein · 10-22-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

the defenders are screwed; under the current rules, they only chance they have to effect the play is to hit the guy to jar the ball loose. They need lax the PI on defensive players; or extend the 5 yard chuck rule to 10 yards.

Once a WR is beyond 5 yards, the defender has virtually zero chance. I don't blame them for laying the wood on a receiver; it's basically the only time the receiver can be touched.

it's going to be sad when/if the NFL goes this route

Flag football anyone?

Amnorix · 10-22-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Sucker.

Gah. I honestly did spend 10 seconds debating whether you were baiting me or not.

I see I lost on that one.

vailpass · 10-22-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Gah. I honestly did spend 10 seconds debating whether you were baiting me or not.

I see I lost on that one.

Dude, you KNOW by now how Donger rolls.

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