Chiefs Is Allen worth it?

**the Talking Can** · 04-23-2008, 10:20 AM

Jared Allen’s place in NFL (financial) history
April 23rd, 2008 – 7:57 AM by Kevin Seifert

Based on some very preliminary research this morning, it appears that new Vikings DE Jared Allen is the NFL’s third-highest paid active player and the fourth-highest in league history.

If you use guaranteed money as a benchmark, then there are only two players whose contracts guarantee more than the $31,000,0069 in Allen’s deal. Both of them are quarterbacks: Pittsburgh’s Ben Roethlisberger, whose recent contract extension guarantees him $36 million, and Indianapolis’ Peyton Manning, who was guaranteed $34.5 million in 2004.

The NFL record, we believe, is the $37 million the Atlanta Falcons guaranteed QB Michael Vick in 2005.

http://ww3.startribune.com/vikingsblog/

He is now the highest paid defensive player in NFL history, according to them.

**doomy3** · 04-23-2008, 10:22 AM

No, he is not worth that IMO.

Molitoth · 04-23-2008, 10:23 AM

Grats to the Vikes for wasting thier money, imo.

stlchiefs · 04-23-2008, 10:24 AM

There's no way he's worth that amount. He's a great player and I'm sad to see the Chiefs loose him, but I would be pissed if my team paid him that kind of money.

Hammock Parties · 04-23-2008, 10:25 AM

The guy had a great year but disappeared in the clutch.

And I've said this before...one knee injury and his effectiveness could be drastically reduced. He's not the most naturally talented guy. Considering the balls-out style of play he brings, and those long legs, it's a possibility.

markk · 04-23-2008, 10:25 AM

more than tom brady!

**doomy3** · 04-23-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NY58

it actually makes me feel so much better about this trade that the vikes are stupid enough to make him the 4th highest paid player in NFL history

You should feel good about this trade. There is no way the Chiefs would have paid him that money, nor should they, and he would have eventually walked and we wouldn't have gotten anything for him. We got a first and 2 thirds for a guy who didn't want to be here. Not bad.

**mlyonsd** · 04-23-2008, 10:26 AM

Good for him. I'm glad he's getting that kind of cash from a different team though.

We're not ready to contend yet and he wanted out. That's probably Carl's fault but you can't fix stupid. That being said the Chiefs are taking a completely different tact and I'm more excited about this weekend's draft than I can ever remember.

We've never had the opportunity to draft this many kickers in one weekend ever.

beach tribe · 04-23-2008, 10:27 AM

Only if he's the last piece of a SB puzzle, but MInny doesn't even have a QB.

**the Talking Can** · 04-23-2008, 10:28 AM

when you really think about that contract, you have to admit that we had no business doing that for a team rebuilding from scratch....

that is insane

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-23-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

when you really think about that contract, you have to admit that we had no business doing that for a team rebuilding from scratch....

that is insane

You expect some people around here to think rationally?

**morphius** · 04-23-2008, 10:33 AM

I'd love to know their definition of "guarantee", that phrase gets thrown out incorrectly all the time when talking about NFL contracts. Unless they gave him the $31 million up front, there is nothing "guaranteed" about it.

Chiefnj2 · 04-23-2008, 10:33 AM

Does it really matter if it is 30 million or 25 million?

Over the 5 years it's only a difference of 1 million a year for cap purposes; or about half of Bober's salary last year. As a GM do you lowball a player like Allen, or do you insist you have enough money left over to sign a Chris Bober or Kendrall Bell or Boomer Grigsby?

People act like the bonus money will affect them. Ticket prices are going to go up even if KC is 30 mil under the cap or 10 mil under the cap.

JBucc · 04-23-2008, 10:36 AM

We won't know for a few years. He could get another DUI, he could decide he's got his cash and not play as hard, or he could go on to have a HOF career. He'll have more talent around him now than he's ever had before.

Radar Chief · 04-23-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

The guy had a great year but disappeared in the clutch.

And I've said this before...one knee injury and his effectiveness could be drastically reduced. He's not the most naturally talented guy. Considering the balls-out style of play he brings, and those long legs, it's a possibility.

True, but he’s not in the division with the knee diving Donks anymore.

04-23-2008, 10:20 AM
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	Is Allen worth it? Jared Allen’s place in NFL (financial) history April 23rd, 2008 – 7:57 AM by Kevin Seifert Based on some very preliminary research this morning, it appears that new Vikings DE Jared Allen is the NFL’s third-highest paid active player and the fourth-highest in league history. If you use guaranteed money as a benchmark, then there are only two players whose contracts guarantee more than the $31,000,0069 in Allen’s deal. Both of them are quarterbacks: Pittsburgh’s Ben Roethlisberger, whose recent contract extension guarantees him $36 million, and Indianapolis’ Peyton Manning, who was guaranteed $34.5 million in 2004. The NFL record, we believe, is the $37 million the Atlanta Falcons guaranteed QB Michael Vick in 2005. http://ww3.startribune.com/vikingsblog/ He is now the highest paid defensive player in NFL history, according to them.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4680478	The guy had a great year but disappeared in the clutch. And I've said this before...one knee injury and his effectiveness could be drastically reduced. He's not the most naturally talented guy. Considering the balls-out style of play he brings, and those long legs, it's a possibility. __________________ Chiefs game films
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morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6925027	I'd love to know their definition of "guarantee", that phrase gets thrown out incorrectly all the time when talking about NFL contracts. Unless they gave him the $31 million up front, there is nothing "guaranteed" about it.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	Does it really matter if it is 30 million or 25 million? Over the 5 years it's only a difference of 1 million a year for cap purposes; or about half of Bober's salary last year. As a GM do you lowball a player like Allen, or do you insist you have enough money left over to sign a Chris Bober or Kendrall Bell or Boomer Grigsby? People act like the bonus money will affect them. Ticket prices are going to go up even if KC is 30 mil under the cap or 10 mil under the cap. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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