NFL Draft I guess this means Gholston is a Chief? - Page 3

kcfan82 · 04-22-2008, 09:39 PM

Fine by me....

Mecca · 04-22-2008, 10:10 PM

This is what I say about Gholston, everyone always wants another Derrick Thomas here, athletically speaking this guy is as close as you are gonna get to another DT.

kcfan82 · 04-22-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

What has he done to be compared to Bruce Smith!?! I guess you could say the same about any player that hasnt yet played a down in the NFL. Draft him on his potential to step up his game at the next level.

Bruce Smith was 295 lbs and around 6 percent body fat, he was referring to physical potential.

Mecca · 04-22-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfan82

Bruce Smith was 295 lbs and around 6 percent body fat, he was referring to physical potential.

Thank you, I'm glad most people understand what I meant.

melbar · 04-22-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You didn't read my comment right did you?

Reread it and let it register.

And...?

So what if you dont want to lay it on him, you still mentioned him in the same sentence with one of the best DE's to play the game because of his physical ability. Physical stats dont make you Bruce Smith.

Bruce wasnt a workout star who didnt back it up with his production.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-22-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

And...?

So what if you dont want to lay it on him, you still mentioned him in the same sentence with one of the best DE's to play the game because of his physical ability. Physical stats dont make you Bruce Smith.

Bruce wasnt a workout star who didnt back it up with his production.

What part of 14 motherfucking sacks in 13 games in the Big Ten doesn't register in your skull?

CHIEF4EVER · 04-22-2008, 10:13 PM

Carl is too stupid to take Gholston.

dj56dt58 · 04-22-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

BPA doesn't stand for Best Position Available...

Vernon Gholston is the kind of athlete you see maybe once a decade.

it would be like trading allen for 2 3rd rounders

Stupid imo

Mecca · 04-22-2008, 10:14 PM

Gholston obviously doesn't perform even though he put up 14 sacks and beat everyones man crush Jake Long....

Gholston is obviously a nobody when LSU's entire offensive gameplan was designed to take him out. They weren't worried about Laurenitis or Jenkins the entire gameplan was based on Gholston.

Mecca · 04-22-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

it would be like trading allen for 2 3rd rounders

Stupid imo

Gholston can be better than Allen, and more dedicated and not create off the field problems....

You don't just not take a DE because you traded Allen.

keg in kc · 04-22-2008, 10:15 PM

I hope he proves me wrong if we draft him, but I don't see Gholston as top-5 calibre. He'd be a risky pick. He's got all the measurables, but I'm not sold on him as a football player, as opposed to an athlete.

Brock · 04-22-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

it would be like trading allen for 2 3rd rounders

Stupid imo

I like Jared Allen, but he was no Derrick Thomas. Gholston has a chance to be that, IMO.

CHIEF4EVER · 04-22-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Gholston can be better than Allen, and more dedicated and not create off the field problems....

You don't just not take a DE because you traded Allen.

I agree. If he is there when we pick we should be sprinting to the Commish with this pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-22-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

it would be like trading allen for 2 3rd rounders

Stupid imo

If the Chiefs took Gholston at 5 even with Allen, it'd be a good pick. If they cloned Jared Allen, had him play both end spots and STILL took him, it'd be a good pick.

You can't play with only two ends. You need at least three, and they split time about evenly. Ask the Giants how unimportant Justin Tuck is to them.

You pay less money for a younger player with less risk, more upside, and you gain three picks out of the deal.

Stop with the Jr. Siavii, position-based, school of drafting.

melbar · 04-22-2008, 10:18 PM

There are tons of guys with big muscles, it doesnt make them Hall of famers. Theres a couple of big guys at my gym too, but it doesnt effect their ability to play football. Guys still have to be football players. Bruce was also a lot bigger if you want to talk physical. This guy aint Bruce Smith. C Long is universally considered better. Gholston is seen by most as a 3-4 guy. Not a cover 2 guy.

Again, he's talented, and could take the next step, but most of the hype is because of the combine and those pics at the top of the page. Every guy out there says the film doesnt back up the hype.

Mecca · 04-22-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I hope he proves me wrong if we draft him, but I don't see Gholston as top-5 calibre. He'd be a risky pick. He's got all the measurables, but I'm not sold on him as a football player, as opposed to an athlete.

Does he need to put up 25 sacks for you to be sold?

04-22-2008, 09:39 PM
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2587050	This is what I say about Gholston, everyone always wants another Derrick Thomas here, athletically speaking this guy is as close as you are gonna get to another DT.
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CHIEF4EVER Just a man in the 'ghan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jalalabad, Afghanistan Casino cash: $10004900	Carl is too stupid to take Gholston. __________________ "Igitur qui deciderat pacem, praeparatur bellum" -Flavius Vegetius Renatus
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04-22-2008, 10:14 PM	#38
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2587050	Gholston obviously doesn't perform even though he put up 14 sacks and beat everyones man crush Jake Long.... Gholston is obviously a nobody when LSU's entire offensive gameplan was designed to take him out. They weren't worried about Laurenitis or Jenkins the entire gameplan was based on Gholston.
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04-22-2008, 10:15 PM	#40
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I hope he proves me wrong if we draft him, but I don't see Gholston as top-5 calibre. He'd be a risky pick. He's got all the measurables, but I'm not sold on him as a football player, as opposed to an athlete.
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04-22-2008, 10:18 PM	#44
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	There are tons of guys with big muscles, it doesnt make them Hall of famers. Theres a couple of big guys at my gym too, but it doesnt effect their ability to play football. Guys still have to be football players. Bruce was also a lot bigger if you want to talk physical. This guy aint Bruce Smith. C Long is universally considered better. Gholston is seen by most as a 3-4 guy. Not a cover 2 guy. Again, he's talented, and could take the next step, but most of the hype is because of the combine and those pics at the top of the page. Every guy out there says the film doesnt back up the hype. __________________
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