Chiefs Defense Dominates First Scrimmage

Mr. Laz · 08-07-2010, 05:37 PM

Chiefs Training Camp: Defense Dominates First Scrimmage

by Joel Thorman on Aug 7, 2010 3:22 PM PDT in Chiefs Training Camp

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It was good to see the Kansas City Chiefs in uniform but it wasn't much of a scrimmage. There wasn't any real hitting going on and you had variations of the depth chart lining up against each other -- First team offense against second team defense, first team defense against second team offense, etc.

As Chris mentioned, there was a new attendance record set for Spratt Stadium: 10,721. For the Wednesday night scrimmage, there were around 8,000 fans there.
It was once again hot but with a slight breeze that made it bearable.

The Chiefs had some warmup drills as well as the scrimmage. If we were awarding winners, the defense won today.

Injuries

Tony Moeaki left the game and hit the bench. Trainers were tending to his leg.

Punting drill

Dexter McCluster was taking a lot of the returns. He dropped two high, wobbly Dustin Colquitt punts in a row. On one play, Colquitt dropped it inside the five and Quinten Lawrence dove into the end zone to tap it back into play and it was caught inside the two by Maurice Leggett.

Kicking
Ryan Succop is money. He hit a 38-yarder and followed it up with a 53-yarder....easy.
I know it's just practice in good conditions but Succop is money.

Offensive line
Here's your first team: LT Branden Albert, LG Ikechuku Ndukwe, C Rudy Niswanger, RG Ryan Lilja, RT Ryan O'Callaghan.

Ndukwe is in there because Brian Waters and Darryl Harris are not participating with injuries.

Colin Brown saw some time at right tackle. It looks like (still very, very early) that's where he's going to stick.

Jon Asamoah continues on at right guard even though the Chiefs are down to their third guard on the left hand side.

Barry Richardson played both left and right tackle. Looks like he'll be the swing guy if he makes the team.

Scrimmage notes
The first play of the scrimmage Matt Cassel had Chris Chambers near the sidelines. It wasn't a perfectly thrown ball but Javier Arenas was in there on coverage to knock it away.

Derrick Johnson blew up two screens. The first one came on the second play of the game on a screen to Thomas Jones. He whipped right through the blockers to make contact (no tackling) behind the line of scrimmage. The second came when he sniffed out a screen pass to Kestahn Moore.

Cassel hit a covered Dwayne Bowe in the middle of the field for a 17-yard gain.

Brodie Croyle looked at Moeaki on three straight plays. The first came on the right hand side of the field under ten yards. Moeaki made the catch falling down. The second came with Moeaki wide open across the middle of the field. The third came on a screen pass. Tyson Jackson sniffed out the screen early.

The second team offense ran the ball on the defense pretty well. In goal line stuff, a trio of Demorrio Williams, Glenn Dorsey, Ron Edwards and Tyson Jackson created some pressure to stuff a Kestahn Moore run (after he had a 10-yard run on them).

With the ball on the two, the Chiefs gave the ball to Jackie Battle and he got in right up the gut for six points.

Cameron Sheffield is getting noticed. He had several impressive pass rushes at times throughout the day. He was kind of an afterthought for me but he's making me notice.

Tyler Palko had several near sacks while he was at quarterback. It's hard to tell what is and is not a real sack since there was no tackling but Justin Cole definitely had him on one play. The outside linebackers did a good job of creating pressure this afternoon.

Battling for a roster spot, Quinten Lawrence made a nice catch on the sidelines on a Palko pass....but he was out of bounds.

Cassel found Chambers 15 yards down field but the play was disrupted by Kendrick Lewis and the ball fell to the ground.

Bowe had another solid sideline catch. Cassel threw the ball on an out pattern near the sideline and Bowe had to go full stretch, keeping his feet on the edge of the sidelines, to make the play. I've seen several plays like that this camp.

Brandon Carr's name has been in the news recently but I caught a pair of nice plays by him including a pass breakup on a Cassel throw to Chambers.

The biggest cheer of the night came when Eric Berry picked off Croyle. It was just a bad pass, Berry made the pick and ran 15-20 yards down field before going down. This was the biggest cheer from the crowd all day.

I called Jake O'Connnell one of the bigger long shots to make the team....literally a minute later he caught a diving, 18-yard touchdown pass from Croyle.

What to take away from this

The offense didn't have a great day. Last Wednesday they were burning the defensive backs in drills but on Saturday they couldn't get much of anything going. It's like there was no rhythm because...

....The front seven was able to get pressure on the quarterbacks all day. McCluster wasn't much of a factor during the scrimmage, which was a little surprising. I figured he'd be a nice outlet for days like this when the quarterbacks didn't have much time.

The first team offense didn't score a touchdown. The second and third team did.

Gravedigger · 08-07-2010, 05:45 PM

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The biggest cheer of the night came when Eric Berry picked off Croyle. It was just a bad pass, Berry made the pick and ran 15-20 yards down field before going down. This was the biggest cheer from the crowd all day.

Gooooood....gooooood.....

Fumblerooski · 08-07-2010, 05:55 PM

He forgot to mention what happened when Cassel went long...

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LaChapelle · 08-07-2010, 05:55 PM

Is that pronounced Mo E awk E?

**the Talking Can** · 08-07-2010, 05:59 PM

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Cameron Sheffield is getting noticed. He had several impressive pass rushes at times throughout the day. He was kind of an afterthought for me but he's making me notice.

noted for future reference

Ebolapox · 08-07-2010, 06:00 PM

that's generally how things go--if the defense ISN'T dominating the offense, that means that the defense either sucks or the offense is great--and we all know that both units will likely be middle of the road, so that's not the case.

**BigRichard** · 08-07-2010, 06:40 PM

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The biggest cheer of the night came when Eric Berry picked off Croyle. It was just a bad pass, Berry made the pick and ran 15-20 yards down field before going down. This was the biggest cheer from the crowd all day.

Here is my picture of Berry as he does just that.

Here is a pretty good one of The Don as well.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-07-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

As Chris mentioned, there was a new attendance record set for Spratt Stadium: 10,721. For the Wednesday night scrimmage, there were around 8,000 fans there.
It was once again hot but with a slight breeze that made it bearable.

There are now more than 20,000 fans at INVESCO Field at Mile High, with more filing in as practice continues.

https://twitter.com/Denver_Broncos/status/20590221823

AndChiefs · 08-07-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

There are now more than 20,000 fans at INVESCO Field at Mile High, with more filing in as practice continues.

https://twitter.com/Denver_Broncos/status/20590221823

Spratt Stadium is a 7,500 seat stadium in St. Joseph, Missouri on the campus of Missouri Western State University.

Invesco Field is a 76,125 seat stadium in Denver, Colorado.

So the Chiefs had well over 100% capacity while Invesco has 25%...Congratulations.

Mr. Arrowhead · 08-07-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

There are now more than 20,000 fans at INVESCO Field at Mile High, with more filing in as practice continues.

https://twitter.com/Denver_Broncos/status/20590221823

was it Free?

Quesadilla Joe · 08-07-2010, 07:14 PM

Yeah all of Denver's practices are free and they do the Invesco thing once during camp. Last year fans were booing McDaniels at the Invesco practice.

kstater · 08-07-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Yeah all of Denver's practices are free and they do the Invesco thing once during camp. Last year fans were booing McDaniels at the Invesco practice.

So you're comparing a once a year practice scrimmage to an every-day practice?

Quesadilla Joe · 08-07-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

So you're comparing a once a year practice scrimmage to an every-day practice?

I was under the impression that the Chiefs scrimmage was similar to the Broncos Invesco scrimmage.

Mr. Arrowhead · 08-07-2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Yeah all of Denver's practices are free and they do the Invesco thing once during camp. Last year fans were booing McDaniels at the Invesco practice.

this one wasnt free, it was 10 bucks

kstater · 08-07-2010, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I was under the impression that the Chiefs scrimmage was similar to the Broncos Invesco scrimmage.

What part of the "First Scrimmage" headline was unclear to you?

08-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Defense Dominates First Scrimmage Chiefs Training Camp: Defense Dominates First Scrimmage by Joel Thorman on Aug 7, 2010 3:22 PM PDT in Chiefs Training Camp More photos » Orlin Wagner - AP Browse more photos » It was good to see the Kansas City Chiefs in uniform but it wasn't much of a scrimmage. There wasn't any real hitting going on and you had variations of the depth chart lining up against each other -- First team offense against second team defense, first team defense against second team offense, etc. As Chris mentioned, there was a new attendance record set for Spratt Stadium: 10,721. For the Wednesday night scrimmage, there were around 8,000 fans there. It was once again hot but with a slight breeze that made it bearable. The Chiefs had some warmup drills as well as the scrimmage. If we were awarding winners, the defense won today. Injuries Tony Moeaki left the game and hit the bench. Trainers were tending to his leg. Punting drill Dexter McCluster was taking a lot of the returns. He dropped two high, wobbly Dustin Colquitt punts in a row. On one play, Colquitt dropped it inside the five and Quinten Lawrence dove into the end zone to tap it back into play and it was caught inside the two by Maurice Leggett. Kicking Ryan Succop is money. He hit a 38-yarder and followed it up with a 53-yarder....easy. I know it's just practice in good conditions but Succop is money. Offensive line Here's your first team: LT Branden Albert, LG Ikechuku Ndukwe, C Rudy Niswanger, RG Ryan Lilja, RT Ryan O'Callaghan. Ndukwe is in there because Brian Waters and Darryl Harris are not participating with injuries. Colin Brown saw some time at right tackle. It looks like (still very, very early) that's where he's going to stick. Jon Asamoah continues on at right guard even though the Chiefs are down to their third guard on the left hand side. Barry Richardson played both left and right tackle. Looks like he'll be the swing guy if he makes the team. Scrimmage notes The first play of the scrimmage Matt Cassel had Chris Chambers near the sidelines. It wasn't a perfectly thrown ball but Javier Arenas was in there on coverage to knock it away. Derrick Johnson blew up two screens. The first one came on the second play of the game on a screen to Thomas Jones. He whipped right through the blockers to make contact (no tackling) behind the line of scrimmage. The second came when he sniffed out a screen pass to Kestahn Moore. Cassel hit a covered Dwayne Bowe in the middle of the field for a 17-yard gain. Brodie Croyle looked at Moeaki on three straight plays. The first came on the right hand side of the field under ten yards. Moeaki made the catch falling down. The second came with Moeaki wide open across the middle of the field. The third came on a screen pass. Tyson Jackson sniffed out the screen early. The second team offense ran the ball on the defense pretty well. In goal line stuff, a trio of Demorrio Williams, Glenn Dorsey, Ron Edwards and Tyson Jackson created some pressure to stuff a Kestahn Moore run (after he had a 10-yard run on them). With the ball on the two, the Chiefs gave the ball to Jackie Battle and he got in right up the gut for six points. Cameron Sheffield is getting noticed. He had several impressive pass rushes at times throughout the day. He was kind of an afterthought for me but he's making me notice. Tyler Palko had several near sacks while he was at quarterback. It's hard to tell what is and is not a real sack since there was no tackling but Justin Cole definitely had him on one play. The outside linebackers did a good job of creating pressure this afternoon. Battling for a roster spot, Quinten Lawrence made a nice catch on the sidelines on a Palko pass....but he was out of bounds. Cassel found Chambers 15 yards down field but the play was disrupted by Kendrick Lewis and the ball fell to the ground. Bowe had another solid sideline catch. Cassel threw the ball on an out pattern near the sideline and Bowe had to go full stretch, keeping his feet on the edge of the sidelines, to make the play. I've seen several plays like that this camp. Brandon Carr's name has been in the news recently but I caught a pair of nice plays by him including a pass breakup on a Cassel throw to Chambers. The biggest cheer of the night came when Eric Berry picked off Croyle. It was just a bad pass, Berry made the pick and ran 15-20 yards down field before going down. This was the biggest cheer from the crowd all day. I called Jake O'Connnell one of the bigger long shots to make the team....literally a minute later he caught a diving, 18-yard touchdown pass from Croyle. What to take away from this The offense didn't have a great day. Last Wednesday they were burning the defensive backs in drills but on Saturday they couldn't get much of anything going. It's like there was no rhythm because... ....The front seven was able to get pressure on the quarterbacks all day. McCluster wasn't much of a factor during the scrimmage, which was a little surprising. I figured he'd be a nice outlet for days like this when the quarterbacks didn't have much time. The first team offense didn't score a touchdown. The second and third team did.
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