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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:09 PM   #3196
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Okie State finished #3, and barely, BARELY got edged out. It was so close, just about anything would have gotten them into the championship game. This wasn't ancient history, it was less than a year ago. Some voters basically punished Okie State for not having to play, and rewarded the SEC loser for at least playing a CCG.
The loser of the SEC CCG didn't get rewarded for anything. LSU was undefeated, and Georgia got beat.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:10 PM   #3197
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not sure what you mean by that. Everyone in the world involved with the 13-year GOR has said, over and over again, consistently, that it'll be signed as part of the new TV deal. That hasn't changed, but people keep bringing that up as if it were an issue.
Then why hasn't it been signed? Lots of smoke...no fire yet.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:11 PM   #3198
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The conferences that aren't in favor of top-4 are attempting to do the college football equivalent of "Tigerproofing" the playing field. They are so thirsty right now.
I never understood what people meant by "Tigerproofing" courses. The courses were lengthened, thus making it MUCH more likely that Tiger would win. /derailing
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:37 PM   #3199
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Lol I completely get your point and I know what happened last year. And again, that is completely irrelevant to the playoffs. And again, if SOS was as heavily favored last year and they are pushing for in the future, OKST would have made it.

You do realize that change means change right? It wont be the same.
Its not irrelevant, at all. Whatever happened at the 2/3 line, could also happen at the 4/5 cutoff line.

The CCG is EQUALLY LIKELY to help as it is to hurt, no matter where you draw the line. There's no logical reason to say "oh, we dont like the game because it could knock someone out", because you are ignoring years when someone close needs help.

The only thing the Big 12 would accomplish by not having a CCG, is say "no thanks" to a bunch of money, which would be really damned stupid.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:44 PM   #3200
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Then why hasn't it been signed? Lots of smoke...no fire yet.


There is no smoke, except for silly people who want to invent smoke. 13 years was not an arbitrary made-up number, its the time frame of our new TV deals, it is an inextricable part of those deals, given to the networks, in exchange for more money.

Seriously, this is not complicated or hard to understand. The TV deal is not completed yet, probably because expansion possibilities are delaying things. It will go in effect when the new deal is done, because the GOR is worth something to the TV networks.

EVERYONE involved with the deal has explained, consistently, without wavering, over and over and over again, what the deal with the GOR is.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:21 AM   #3201
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There is no smoke, except for silly people who want to invent smoke. 13 years was not an arbitrary made-up number, its the time frame of our new TV deals, it is an inextricable part of those deals, given to the networks, in exchange for more money.

Seriously, this is not complicated or hard to understand. The TV deal is not completed yet, probably because expansion possibilities are delaying things. It will go in effect when the new deal is done, because the GOR is worth something to the TV networks.

EVERYONE involved with the deal has explained, consistently, without wavering, over and over and over again, what the deal with the GOR is.
This isn't as inevitable as you're making it out to be. Rumor is that at least one school isn't willing to sign yet.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:56 AM   #3202
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This isn't as inevitable as you're making it out to be. Rumor is that at least one school isn't willing to sign yet.
fine, as long as you come back and say "woops, I was wrong. I feel kinda silly for believing that wild-ass crap for no apparent reason"

There is really no good reason, at all, to believe this rumor, except for a strong desire to see it happen. Its similar to Syracuse and Pitt fans all telling each other that someone in the Big 12 is about to leave the conference any day now. Its obviously a stupid rumor, but they have to hope for something.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:02 AM   #3203
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fine, as long as you come back and say "woops, I was wrong. I feel kinda silly for believing that wild-ass crap for no apparent reason"

There is really no good reason, at all, to believe this rumor, except for a strong desire to see it happen. Its similar to Syracuse and Pitt fans all telling each other that someone in the Big 12 is about to leave the conference any day now. Its obviously a stupid rumor, but they have to hope for something.
I think it will get signed. It is concerning that it hasn't happened yet, though. The conference meetings would have been the perfect time to do out, but the commissioners have all been pretty sheepish when asked about it in interviews.
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Why would the other SEC schools want to have the tournament in KC? I think MU fans want it just to stick it to the Big 12 schools as a, "This is our town!" kind of thing, but I guess I don't see what the other schools get out of it other than a long trip.
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