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Old 06-15-2009, 07:51 PM  
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I fired AT&T today

I have had problems with my DSL over the past few months. It goes out sporadically or the speed is up and down. I pay for the 3 Mbps service. Here is a speed test I just did. Not exactly getting what I pay for.



One of the first things I did was to buy a new Motorola modem from them. Problems still.

Also had the phone line go out once during the past few months time. The phone line problem ended up being on their end, of course. But I had to waste my whole damn afternoon of leave time for their repair service.

Had them come out again recently to fix the DSL which hasn't been working properly for months now. Supposed to have fixed it. She said she put a filter on the main line into the house. Problems started showing up again shortly after that.

I even called them a week ago one last time to see if they could try to repair it again. The guy I spoke with said the repair center would be calling me the next day because they were already closed for the night. Of course, I knew that as I had already been through his a few times. This time, however, nobody ever called me to check my line and/or schedule a repair.

I called today and canceled my ATT phone and DSL service that I have been on for 18(phone) and 7(DSL) years. Cox will be out to install cable internet and digital phone next Tuesday. I can't wait to not have these problems anymore. Anyone else have experiences like this with ATT or any other provider?
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:43 PM   #31
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What he's saying is, you won't need one. Everything will be on your schedule.
I seriously doubt on demand will ever show every single program.
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:48 PM   #32
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I seriously doubt on demand will ever show every single program.
Why not disk space is free, it doesn't cost you anything to store it, it only costs you to deliver it. The network bandwidth is one of the biggest limiters today.
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:49 PM   #33
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That's standard cable internet for me. I pay $30 a month for it. I did negotiate that rate, but it's pretty cheap IMO. I can download a movie (legally of course ) in minutes.
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:52 PM   #34
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Why not disk space is free, it doesn't cost you anything to store it, it only costs you to deliver it. The network bandwidth is one of the biggest limiters today.
If you say so. You seem to know more about it than I do. It would be nice if that happened. I wouldn't have to worry about missing my shows if the power were to go out during recording.
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:56 PM   #35
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I have AT&T and the only problem I have is when I use the land line I get really bad static or it disconnects the internet. Had a guy come out to check it out, worked for a while and then starts doing it again intermittently. Anyone else have this problem with DSL?
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:57 PM   #36
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If you say so. You seem to know more about it than I do. It would be nice if that happened. I wouldn't have to worry about missing my shows if the power were to go out during recording.
No one can know the exact timing but it is coming. That's just what the trending is showing. The other great thing about this will also be you can watch your shows anywhere. One the bus, on the subway, on the plane. At your in-laws house. Total data mobility. Imagine plugging your cell phone into your tv a the hotel in europe and getting to watch your favorite sitcom? Or your local news. Or the local news at your old hometown you don't live at. That's the future. But then again, I have to drink the koolaid. I'm going to start my own company in this space in a few months.
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:58 PM   #37
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I have AT&T and the only problem I have is when I use the land line I get really bad static or it disconnects the internet. Had a guy come out to check it out, worked for a while and then starts doing it again intermittently. Anyone else have this problem with DSL?
Usually this is a problem with the filters on the DSL. Either the internet or the phone line is interfering with the other.
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:01 PM   #38
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Usually this is a problem with the filters on the DSL. Either the internet or the phone line is interfering with the other.
I've got the filters on the right way...are you saying they might be defective?
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:06 PM   #39
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No one can know the exact timing but it is coming. That's just what the trending is showing. The other great thing about this will also be you can watch your shows anywhere. One the bus, on the subway, on the plane. At your in-laws house. Total data mobility. Imagine plugging your cell phone into your tv a the hotel in europe and getting to watch your favorite sitcom? Or your local news. Or the local news at your old hometown you don't live at. That's the future. But then again, I have to drink the koolaid. I'm going to start my own company in this space in a few months.
Good luck in your new company. Seriously. That's a big deal.

One thing that must be considered is that the CONTENT of TV has to be paid for. It does. And if it is all on-demand internet, the revenue stream is limited severely. I don't know how Hulu et. al. are funded, but It surely can't be as much as what are being paid through traditional TV functions, Ads are all good and fun, but you're still losing the monthly fee you pay.

When you talk about major paradigm shifts like this, it goes beyond just supply and demand. Other market forces will come into play. It is interesting to think about, but before staking too much money on it, make damn sure you research the **** out of it. Look at other major technological changes and determine what smoothed the transition. More importantly look at technological changes that SHOULD have worked and determine if any similar roadblocks are in place in this function. I'm not educated enough to know about it, but I know it is a complex situation.

Also, you should PM Htismaque. I think he works in a similar industry.

Best of luck.
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:26 PM   #40
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I have AT&T and the only problem I have is when I use the land line I get really bad static or it disconnects the internet. Had a guy come out to check it out, worked for a while and then starts doing it again intermittently. Anyone else have this problem with DSL?
Shut the modem/router off. If the noise disappears they might be related. If the noise is still there, plug a phone into the NID outside the house and see if there's still noise. If there's no noise, the trouble is in your house. If there is noise, let your phone company know.

I've had trouble like you've mentioned and it could be a number of things. Once an electrician wired the house funky, other times it was a bridge tap at the pedestal, and my wireless wouldn't work when I was on my 2.4 ghz telephone. (same frequency)

I'd give more advice, but the GF is getting pissed that I'm typing and not talking on the phone.
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:32 PM   #41
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Shut the modem/router off. If the noise disappears they might be related. If the noise is still there, plug a phone into the NID outside the house and see if there's still noise. If there's no noise, the trouble is in your house. If there is noise, let your phone company know.

I've had trouble like you've mentioned and it could be a number of things. Once an electrician wired the house funky, other times it was a bridge tap at the pedestal, and my wireless wouldn't work when I was on my 2.4 ghz telephone. (same frequency)

I'd give more advice, but the GF is getting pissed that I'm typing and not talking on the phone.
Thanks for the info...the tech checked that crap out already... I had this going on at my other house too. Maybe I need a new phone
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:42 PM   #43
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I've been having minor problems with ATT lately but nothing that severe. I pay for 1.5 and have been dropping down to 1.1 alot. Today I am back at 1.5 though. I'm still using the same modem I purchased nearly 4 years ago too.

I can't even fathom going to Cox and paying their ridiculous prices though.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:00 PM   #44
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I've been having minor problems with ATT lately but nothing that severe. I pay for 1.5 and have been dropping down to 1.1 alot. Today I am back at 1.5 though. I'm still using the same modem I purchased nearly 4 years ago too.

I can't even fathom going to Cox and paying their ridiculous prices though.
Keep in mind, most companies only guarantee the speed you subscribe to at the outside of your home at the NID. I've measured 1.5 outside the house, gone to the jack and measured it slower.

Also, some companies offer speeds "up to" a certain speed. It's not guaranteed.

Just an FYI.
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