Thoughts on Preseason Game #2

[petegz28]

No sense in waiting for this to end.

Break it down

[milkman]

Originally Posted by R8ers

I may be wrong but I think the 40 times for both are 4.33 for DMC and 4.34 for Charles so speed should not even be compared with the two.

I am not comparing speed, but rather comparing styles.

As you pointed out, McFadden is a more punishing runner, so he's not using that speed with the same effectiveness that Charles uses his.

That is, of course, the product of their size difference, but's it relevant to the issue.

Charles is stronger than most give him credit, but he doesn't seek out contact the same way that McFadden does.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by milkman

I am not comparing speed, but rather comparing styles.

As you pointed out, McFadden is a more punishing runner, so he's not using that speed with the same effectiveness that Charles uses his.

That is, of course, the product of their size difference, but's it relevant to the issue.

Charles is stronger than most give him credit, but he doesn't seek out contact the same way that McFadden does.

I would take either one on my team and if we had JC instead of DMC and if the Cheaps had DMC I doubt either one of us would be complaining when they are both healthy.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by R8ers

I would take either one on my team and if we had JC instead of DMC and if the Cheaps had DMC I doubt either one of us would be complaining when they are both healthy.

Well, I would not have even gone to make comparisons if you hadn't asked.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by milkman

Well, I would not have even gone to make comparisons if you hadn't asked.

Obviously we are going to differ on this question, I didn't even think the results would have been different, although I expected a dumbass to reply instead of cordial fans like yourself and PGM

[In58men]

Last time Chiefs went 2-0 in preseason was back in 2003 lol

[bricks]

I don't worry too much about the preseason but I'll say this,

Yesterday's game gave us an indication of how important Flowers is to the Chiefs football team. The Rams did the smart thing by attacking Flowers replacement.

They exposed the team weakness really well. I also think Belcher is a big liability in coverage. I wouldn't be surprised come season time that teams decide to attack in his area.

[bricks]

And Cassel is clearly the starter.

Competition at QB isn't even close. There just is none. I'm trying to figure whether Stanzi has a long ways to go or if he just isn't that good? Quinn forget about it. Im not gonna place my hopes in him.

*At least Cassel is playing well though. That's the only positive I can take from this point.

[Coogs]

BossChiefs take on the game 100 posts or so ago was probably the closest to what I took out of it.

And I will throw in a couple of additional thoughts to that.

For better or worse, it appears we are going to have the 2010 Matt Cassel.

Game one featured the run over the pass, and went into the win column. (first half)

Game two featured the pass over the run, and went into the loss column. (first half)

And the MO for the passing game for both games followed much along the Charlie Wies plan... which makes sense.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by bricks

And Cassel is clearly the starter.

Competition at QB isn't even close. There just is none. I'm trying to figure whether Stanzi has a long ways to go or if he just isn't that good? Quinn forget about it. Im not gonna place my hopes in him.

*At least Cassel is playing well though. That's the only positive I can take from this point.

You're correct - it's not close. That was the plan from the get go though we were told otherwise. Quin is clearly # 2. Wish we had a # 2 that was better but we don't. Stanzi doesn't belong in the NFL.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by bricks

I don't worry too much about the preseason but I'll say this,

Yesterday's game gave us an indication of how important Flowers is to the Chiefs football team. The Rams did the smart thing by attacking Flowers replacement.

They exposed the team weakness really well. I also think Belcher is a big liability in coverage. I wouldn't be surprised come season time that teams decide to attack in his area.

The bigger weakness is the non existent pass rush. The DL is the weak link of the defense. Has been for years, which is why the Chiefs can look great on defense one week and next get run all over. The Rams had no problems running the ball up the middle at will. Their # 1 OL totally dominated our #1 DL. Until the Chiefs get a solid DL, the up and down play will continue. This is the reason why I couldn't understand how all off season some kept saying how awesome our defense is / was. It's only gonna be as good as the DL will let it be.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

People say that because it was a top 5 defense the 2nd half of the year last year. They faced Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Big Ben in that stretch, so the people calling it a fluke are talking out of thier ass.

They had 20 sacks in that span, you are overreacting.

[oldman]

I've only seen the games on TV, but is Breaston even getting open or is he doubled? I don't think we've targeted him once.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by PGM

People say that because it was a top 5 defense the 2nd half of the year last year. They faced Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Big Ben in that stretch, so the people calling it a fluke are talking out of thier ass.

They had 20 sacks in that span, you are overreacting.

Top 5? Really? Over the 2nd half. You sure they were top 5 against the run over that span???

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by TEX

Top 5? Really? Over the 2nd half. You sure they were top 5 against the run over that span???

I'll have to find the stats Boss or someone posted them towards the end of the year last year. Don't remember thier run ranking.

[R8RFAN]

Ol "Hot Tub" Boss played pretty good last night what I saw