***Rumor*** Pioli gets fired if Chiefs Lose in Tampa.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Then you are either unmanageable or a shitty manager.

This is completely oblivious to the way the real world works. Most of us have been managed by a shitty manager and a very good manager, and those who have know the difference. Those who manage people know it's a very difficult job.

Yeah, I've had plenty of good managers. they stay in their office, get me what I need, and stay the **** out of my way. The worst managers are always the ones who actually try to manage. They're talentless hacks, that's why they're managers.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, I've had plenty of good managers. they stay in their office, get me what I need, and stay the **** out of my way. The worst managers are always the ones who actually try to manage. They're talentless hacks, that's why they're managers.

Then you've never had a good manager. Or you're unmanageable.

Managers aren't talentless hacks. Good managers are hard to find, and a lot of them suck.

In the case of a College Scouting Director, you have dozens of scouts trying to jockey for the 5 minutes of time Scott Pioli has to devote to them. These scouts are going to get their asses handed to them if Pioli passes on a good prospect in their territory, or if they make a wrong recommendation. These scouts recruit exactly the player that your CSD asks you to scout -- they work off of a very specific "playbook." The CSD is incredibly organized and makes sure the scouting operation is well run, that all the players have been thoroughly evaluated, and no stone is left unturned. And ultimately, they have to rifle through thousands of reports and make a very accurate read to Pioli in bullet points.

Maybe no team should have a college scouting director, since they're so unimportant and talentless. Or maybe NFL executives know a little bit more about how to run a team than a few of us sitting on our laptops.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Then you've never had a good manager. Or you're unmanageable.

Managers aren't talentless hacks. Good managers are hard to find, and a lot of them suck.

You don't know what you're talking about. Managers are riders on the wagon I'm pulling, nothing more, and the more of your nonsense I read, the more convinced I become that you're one of these useless hacks. I don't konw what burger joint you're managing, but I work in a technical environment where the worker knows what the job is and the best way to do it, and I don't need some suit giving me pointers when he sounds like a lost child who wandered into a movie theater. Just go have your cigarette and let me get the job done.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Brock

You don't know what you're talking about. Managers are riders on the wagon I'm pulling, nothing more, and the more of your nonsense I read, the more convinced I become that you're one of these useless hacks. I don't konw what burger joint you're managing, but I work in a technical environment where the worker knows what the job is and the best way to do it, and I don't need some suit giving me pointers when he sounds like a lost child who wandered into a movie theater. Just go have your cigarette and let me get the job done.

Not every work place is set up like that, or has a full set of employees that know what the **** they are doing.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

You don't know what you're talking about. Managers are riders on the wagon I'm pulling, nothing more, and the more of your nonsense I read, the more convinced I become that you're one of these useless hacks. I don't konw what burger joint you're managing, but I work in a technical environment where the worker knows what the job is and the best way to do it, and I don't need some suit giving me pointers when he sounds like a lost child who wandered into a movie theater. Just go have your cigarette and let me get the job done.

Then your first mistake is to assume that all environments are like the technical environment you work in. I worked in claims operations years and years ago. I didn't need a manager. Just someone who was quick and responsive. But don't make the ridiculous suggestion that all environments are like this. I manage in a Fortune 100 corporation. I've managed in cutthroat environments where if your people weren't delivering business results, you got drilled and they got drilled. I know that bad managers struggle to delegate work, and employees get under-utilized. I know that good managers dictate a clear strategy to their workers in an unclear environment.

I can promise you that right now, scouts have 20 minutes of information and Pioli has time to hear 2 minutes of it. And whereas Phil Emery probably took heat if a good prospect got passed up, now scouts will get grilled and maybe even fired.

Emery's job was to organize the scouts and take hours of information and condense it in to quick reads for Pioli. Not an easy job by any stretch. And definitely an important one.