Chiefs Dolphins working on a trade for offensive tackle Branden Albert - Page 25

ShowtimeSBMVP · 04:51 PM

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
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The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

Messier · 04-17-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I would argue that Bradford has had worse. To compare the rbs are a wash. Buy you think that the best wr Bradford had to work with was Ameyendola and you start to see the vast differences in what each qb had.

Who was Smiths best WR his first three years?

**mdchiefsfan** · 04-17-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Why don't we turn to my Geno is better than... poll to see if that's actually true.

Most people who voted tended to say that Geno was better than Bradford as a prospect, and I legitimately agree with that. I like him better than Rivers (who sat for his rookie year *gasp*) and Stafford, but people tend to be higher on Stafford than Geno. I can buy that.

In the meantime, it's pretty ****ing stupid to say the top QBs in this class are less than "normal" because Bradford and Rivers are way below normal top QB prospects. I really don't know what Bradford did to tickle your balls coming out of college that Geno does not do.

Let me guess, 'WINZ GAMEZ!!!!!!!111"

Yeah, a lot of good that "winner" mentality from college is doing him now in the pros.

What sucks is, this it's my line of thinking as . There can be no higher payoff than successfully picking a QB and doing so locks up franchise success for years on end. When there is no clear cut choice, why not take the chance on the player that could define your career?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-17-2013, 08:08 PM

It's a dysfunctional franchise. You'll rarely be wrong if you expect the Chiefs to make the incorrect decision.

Honestly, we should be at the point where anyone hired by the Chiefs should immediately be subjected to skepticism precisely because they were hired by the Chiefs.

O.city · 04-17-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

What sucks is, this it's my line of thinking as . There can be no higher payoff than successfully picking a QB and doing so locks up franchise success for years on end. When there is no clear cut choice, why not take the chance on the player that could define your career?

Because you might miss out on a franchise LT?

**RealSNR** · 04-17-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

We just treated the QB spot with the most importance. Best available QB , best backup.

Move on man.

I'd really like to get the NFL's REAL opinion on this. Everybody seems to be patting us on the head like we're ****ing 3 years old and just built a shitty tower out of Duplo blocks.

"You found a QB! Good for you! Maybe some day in about 3 or 4 years you can be like mommy and daddy and get big people jobs!"

I have a feeling what the NFL really thinks about these moves is, "Pretty shitty. Hope we get to play the Chiefs a bunch for the next few years."

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-17-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Guess we'll find out in 3 years.

Not unless we take him.

The Patriot Way is 99% bullshit, but there's one thing they believe in that I do as well.

If you don't draft a guy, it makes no difference what he does elsewhere. A player kicking ass elsewhere doesn't mean you made a mistake, and a player sucking ass somewhere else doesn't mean you made the right decision.

Circumstances are different. Coaching staffs, schemes, surrounding talent.

Someone like Tim Couch could have went somewhere else and been a decent QB. Aaron Rodgers could have went somewhere else and just been a decent QB.

What Geno - or any other player we pass on does - doesn't matter. You never know how he would have performed under different circumstances.

RunKC · 04-17-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Every year is the wrong ****ing year.

Let me guess, it's just "bad luck," right?

Maybe it's because the franchise has never had any ****ing testicles. They're a bunch of dickless douchebags who think great RBs win championships, and that QBs are just complementary guys that you find whenever you can like they're ****ing kickers or punters.

Now you're just trying to turn anti-Geno fans into morons who don't want any QB ever when that's not true at all.

You would have drafted JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch and Vince Young if you had the number 1 pick huh?

But hey at least those GM's tried!

I'm sure Reid and Dorsey care so much about your opinion of us drafting a QB just to say we did.

milkman · 04-17-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by caligula

so, the dolphins (who drafted a first round QB last year) are getting a starting left tackle (proven veteran) for a low 2nd

and we're getting a rookie starting tackle for the #1 pick in the draft, while spending a high second round pick (and more) on a QB who was a back up

and this isn't ****ing reeruned because why?

Sums it up nicely.

Titty Meat · 04-17-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's a dysfunctional franchise. You'll rarely be wrong if you expect the Chiefs to make the incorrect decision.

Honestly, we should be at the point where anyone hired by the Chiefs should immediately be subjected to skepticism precisely because they were hired by the Chiefs.

LOL I was flamed for bashing the Chiefs/Royals in a thread last week.

Then again I was also called reeruned for suggesting Pioli/Crennel be fired after the game against Atlanta.

O.city · 04-17-2013, 08:11 PM

Look at who the biggest bust QB's have been drafted by. Of course they were going to be shit, they went to shit franchises.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-17-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Every year is the wrong ****ing year.

Let me guess, it's just "bad luck," right?

Maybe it's because the franchise has never had any ****ing testicles. They're a bunch of dickless douchebags who think great RBs win championships, and that QBs are just complementary guys that you find whenever you can like they're ****ing kickers or punters.

2013 Kansas City Chiefs.

Bad luck since Feburary, 1970.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-17-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Not unless we take him.

The Patriot Way is 99% bullshit, but there's one thing they believe in that I do as well.

If you don't draft a guy, it makes no difference what he does elsewhere. A player kicking ass elsewhere doesn't mean you made a mistake, and a player sucking ass somewhere else doesn't mean you made the right decision.

Circumstances are different. Coaching staffs, schemes, surrounding talent.

Someone like Tim Couch could have went somewhere else and been a decent QB. Aaron Rodgers could have went somewhere else and just been a decent QB.

What Geno - or any other player we pass on does - doesn't matter. You never know how he would have performed under different circumstances.

My take on why that is espoused as Patriot Way philosophy:

I think there is legitimacy to it (Chaos Theory), but it also insulates the management from any skepticism on the players they pass up (Clay Matthews).

Red Dawg · 04-17-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yeah, Dorsey/Reid shouldn't be allowed to trade anymore after this. Getting fleeced twice when you have a 2-14 team is ****ing unacceptable.

Dear lord. You all act Albert is Willie Roaf. He is solid at best. Our line can be upgraded with Fisher. We need a second rounder more.

**mdchiefsfan** · 04-17-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Who was Smiths best WR his first three years?

Vernon Davis

**BossChief** · 04-17-2013, 08:15 PM

Guys, we have to face the distinct possibility that the Chiefs are still ran by fools.

The compensation for Alex Smith was horrendous.

The Shaun Smith signing has FA bust written all over it.

Trading Albert to replace him with the first overall pick in the upcoming draft is quite possibly the worst usage EVER of a first overall pick.

04-17-2013, 05:39 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3636009	Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT Branden Albert AP The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking. Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal. In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis. If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year. Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 04-21-2013 at 04:51 PM..
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