News Bomb Exploded at Boston Marathon Finish Line - Page 42

Amnorix · 04-15-2013, 01:07 PM

I've heard an unconfirmed report (a co-worker's girlfriend called him) that there was a bomb at the finish line of the Boston Marathon, with people injured. I am hearing multiple sirens, though I'm not in the Copley area.

InChiefsHeaven · 04-15-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

First bomb went off at the 4:09:44 mark.

4 x 11 = 44!!! Somehow this fits!!

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 04-15-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Some of you are ****ing pathetic. You deserve whatever bullshit happens in your life.

Im surprised you found a soapbox that could support you

**Donger** · 04-15-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

How long until someone from North Korea or Iran gets blamed for it?

Over/Under?

I would guess long enough to ascertain whether or not either were actually involved. I would speculate that this was home-brewed, though.

**bevischief** · 04-15-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

How long until someone from North Korea or Iran gets blamed for it?

Over/Under?

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Been thinking this since it happened.

Raiderhater · 04-15-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Would you two please stop it.

This.

Imon Yourside · 04-15-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I would guess long enough to ascertain whether or not either were actually involved. I would speculate that this was home-brewed, though.

Probably a tax evasion scheme, or to buy some time.

**alnorth** · 04-15-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thecoffeeguy

O believe me, dude, I am more the capable of articulating my thoughts. I just choose not to do so with the likes of you.

Go ahead. Come back with some pathetic response.

To us on the side, refusing to explain yourself and just using emoticons and laughing makes you look dumb.

**Bugeater** · 04-15-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Some of you are ****ing pathetic. You deserve whatever bullshit happens in your life.

Don't you have the power to boot the assholes out of the thread?

**BigRedChief** · 04-15-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

How long until someone from North Korea or Iran gets blamed for it?

Over/Under?

Pretty damn amateurish bombs for state sponsorship.

**bevischief** · 04-15-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Some of you are ****ing pathetic. You deserve whatever bullshit happens in your life.

I agree. And for me to say something that speaks a lot.

|Zach| · 04-15-2013, 04:32 PM

How the Boston PD Could Examine the Videos From the Bombing
Forensic video analysis remains a time-consuming, human task.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...ombing/275008/

As investigators try to figure out what happened today during the bombings at the Boston Marathon, they'll turn to video taken at the scene of the explosions.

In addition to any closed-circuit television cameras lining Boylston Street and its surroundings, The Bureau Chief of Public Information, Cheryl Fiandaca, called for members of the public to send in video from near the finish line.

Once the police have the prospective evidence in hand, they'll need to run forensic analysis on it. What we know from recent years is that the amount of evidence can be staggering large. For example, the Vancouver riot in early 2011 brought 1,600 hours of video streaming into that city's police department. Just to watch all that video through one time is a substantial task, let alone examining it closely or trying to find events or people of interest.

Right now, there is no video software that can do this type of analysis, not even in a first-pass way. IARPA (DARPA for the intelligence services) put out a call for proposals in 2010 for this kind of "Automated Low-level Analysis and Description of Diverse Intelligence Video." It described, in brief, the problem that investigators (or intelligence analysts) face:

Massive numbers of video clips are generated daily on many types of consumer electronics and uploaded to the internet. In contrast to videos that are produced for broadcast or from planned surveillance, the "unconstrained" video clips produced by anyone who has a digital camera present a significant challenge for manual as well as automated analysis.

So, at the moment, human investigators must watch and code each and every second of the video that they collect. While the Boston police may have the resources they need, chances are that they're going to be swamped with video from the scene, given the number of spectators and the prevalence of cameras. This is the future we live in: Major events are photographed and recorded by hundreds of people.

Until we know more about the bombings, we don't know under whose jurisdiction the investigation will come. The Federal Bureau of Investigation analyzes video within its Operatonal Technology Divison, inside the Digital Evidence Laboratory by the Forensic Audio, Video, and Image Analysis Unit (FAVIAU). In 2010, that unit had just 26 agents.

If Federal or local police do need help, they could reach out to Digital Media Evidence Processing Lab at the University of Indianapolis, which is run by the Law Enforcement and Emergency Services Video Association.

The lab has 20 video workstations running Ocean Systems dTective forensic video software. It's set up for training police in video forensics, but has been envisioned as a place that could serve as a headquarters for emergencies like the one in Boston.

After the Vancouver riots, police in that city brought the video they received from citizens to the lab. "Working around-the-clock shifts, analysts and technicians examined more than 5,000 hours of video while tagging more than 15,000 criminal events and individuals," trade journal Evidence Magazine wrote in 2012. "The approach proved quite powerful. Whereas investigators required four months to process just 100 hours of video after the riots in 1994, the thousands of hours of video recorded in 2011 were processed and initially tagged in just two weeks."

This will become the sad new ritual of mourning a tragedy: sending and processing the horrific memories of an event in hopes of finding evidence to bring criminals to justice.

Raiderhater · 04-15-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Pretty damn amateurish bombs for state sponsorship.

Eh, I could see it being a North Korean missile attack.

**Bugeater** · 04-15-2013, 04:33 PM

One of the fatalities was an 8 yr old child.

suzzer99 · 04-15-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

Shit like this is crazy... and I always start asking questions.

Why would they have the bombs at the end of the race... 4 hours into the race... at the end of the race? IMO, whoever sick **** did this, didn't want a lot of body count. They wanted media coverage.

They actually timed the bomb when the highest frequency of runners were coming across the line. Also maybe security is much tighter when the leaders are finishing.

**ChiTown** · 04-15-2013, 04:33 PM

I don't get the bickering. We just lost some innocent people due to what appears to be a terrorist attack. What's the point with all this back and forth right now? I'm mean, seriously?

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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5316768	How the Boston PD Could Examine the Videos From the Bombing Forensic video analysis remains a time-consuming, human task. http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...ombing/275008/ As investigators try to figure out what happened today during the bombings at the Boston Marathon, they'll turn to video taken at the scene of the explosions. In addition to any closed-circuit television cameras lining Boylston Street and its surroundings, The Bureau Chief of Public Information, Cheryl Fiandaca, called for members of the public to send in video from near the finish line. Once the police have the prospective evidence in hand, they'll need to run forensic analysis on it. What we know from recent years is that the amount of evidence can be staggering large. For example, the Vancouver riot in early 2011 brought 1,600 hours of video streaming into that city's police department. Just to watch all that video through one time is a substantial task, let alone examining it closely or trying to find events or people of interest. Right now, there is no video software that can do this type of analysis, not even in a first-pass way. IARPA (DARPA for the intelligence services) put out a call for proposals in 2010 for this kind of "Automated Low-level Analysis and Description of Diverse Intelligence Video." It described, in brief, the problem that investigators (or intelligence analysts) face: Massive numbers of video clips are generated daily on many types of consumer electronics and uploaded to the internet. In contrast to videos that are produced for broadcast or from planned surveillance, the "unconstrained" video clips produced by anyone who has a digital camera present a significant challenge for manual as well as automated analysis. So, at the moment, human investigators must watch and code each and every second of the video that they collect. While the Boston police may have the resources they need, chances are that they're going to be swamped with video from the scene, given the number of spectators and the prevalence of cameras. This is the future we live in: Major events are photographed and recorded by hundreds of people. Until we know more about the bombings, we don't know under whose jurisdiction the investigation will come. The Federal Bureau of Investigation analyzes video within its Operatonal Technology Divison, inside the Digital Evidence Laboratory by the Forensic Audio, Video, and Image Analysis Unit (FAVIAU). In 2010, that unit had just 26 agents. If Federal or local police do need help, they could reach out to Digital Media Evidence Processing Lab at the University of Indianapolis, which is run by the Law Enforcement and Emergency Services Video Association. The lab has 20 video workstations running Ocean Systems dTective forensic video software. It's set up for training police in video forensics, but has been envisioned as a place that could serve as a headquarters for emergencies like the one in Boston. After the Vancouver riots, police in that city brought the video they received from citizens to the lab. "Working around-the-clock shifts, analysts and technicians examined more than 5,000 hours of video while tagging more than 15,000 criminal events and individuals," trade journal Evidence Magazine wrote in 2012. "The approach proved quite powerful. Whereas investigators required four months to process just 100 hours of video after the riots in 1994, the thousands of hours of video recorded in 2011 were processed and initially tagged in just two weeks." This will become the sad new ritual of mourning a tragedy: sending and processing the horrific memories of an event in hopes of finding evidence to bring criminals to justice.
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