Draft the best player on the board!! - Page 2

**FRCDFED** · 03-19-2005, 03:03 PM

With all the talk about trading our 1st rounder to pick up additional picks I wanted to remind everyone that by drafting higher in round 1 you increase your chances to get a playmaker! Notice I said "increase" and not that it is guaranteed.

We also do not want to include Wesley in a trade for Surtain if it is avoidable. Wesley will beat out Woods for the FS position. I do want Surtain but at the cheapest cost.

With our 1st round pick we need to take the BEST PLAYER ON THE BOARD!! Regardless of position! This draft strategy will allow us to have a playmaker versus the 2nd or 3rd best available position player who we can all sit around on here after three years and bitch about.

We are very critical of Carls draft history but when you look at the good players picked up in the draft (ie TG, LJ) you will notice he selected those who were arguably the best at their position in college and had a solid season leading up to the draft. Now there will be those anomolies such as Simms but Simms didn't come on strong until his senior season and was playing along side Peppers so he should have been considered a risk.

~wants to be GM for a day~

Digital Takawira · 03-20-2005, 05:24 PM

watching his workout at the combine, he didn't look like he was doing to good at backpedaling then changing direction at full speed. he looked like he would play better with the play in front of him.

i'd much rather have rogers, rolle, or jones.

milkman · 03-20-2005, 05:28 PM

Jackson did fine against real live competition.

I really think to much emphasis is placed on the combine.

I think, and this may be a red flag, without that man to cover, he loses focus.

That might explain his poor performance as a FS in his junior year, and his combine performance.

Mastashake · 03-20-2005, 05:45 PM

So would drafting the best player still be a good idea if he was a SS? I mean, we could, like move him to CB like we did with Dale Carter...IT'LL WORK!!!

Seriously, though, go with what you neeeeeed.

Mastashake

Digital Takawira · 03-20-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

Jackson did fine against real live competition.

I really think to much emphasis is placed on the combine.

I think, and this may be a red flag, without that man to cover, he loses focus.

That might explain his poor performance as a FS in his junior year, and his combine performance.

i still would only take him if derrick johnson, antrel rolle, carlos rogers, pacman jones, justin miller, and corey webster are gone.

milkman · 03-20-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital Takawira

i still would only take him if derrick johnson, antrel rolle, carlos rogers, pacman jones, justin miller, and corey webster are gone.

According to scouting reports on Webster, he's pretty raw, and would take some time to develop into an NFL CB.

CanadaKC · 03-20-2005, 06:44 PM

I'm of the belief that Carlos Rogers in the best CB in the draft. He's certainly on par with Rolle and Jones IMO. If he's there...he's as good as gone.

Coogs · 03-20-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastashake

So would drafting the best player still be a good idea if he was a SS? I mean, we could, like move him to CB like we did with Dale Carter...IT'LL WORK!!!

Seriously, though, go with what you neeeeeed.

Mastashake

Might not be all that bad if Thomas Davis from Georgia was the pick. He played safety for Georgia, but also some OLB. He is projected right in the area we pick, and is listed for both spots, S and OLB. Remember another safety who moved to LB not long back who does pretty well? Here is a hint. He plays MLB for the Bears.

CanadaKC · 03-20-2005, 06:49 PM

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and is listed for both spots, S and OLB. Remember another safety who moved to LB not long back who does pretty well? Here is a hint. He plays MLB for the Bears

Yes...Davis could be the choice there too...but with Sammy Knight on board...we don't need a coinverted safety...we need a LB/DE...
as in Merriman...who could also be our pick.

milkman · 03-20-2005, 06:52 PM

Just say no to Tweeners like Merriman!

CanadaKC · 03-20-2005, 06:57 PM

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Just say no to Tweeners like Merriman

this goes straight to the argument...draft the best player available vs. what we need. Merriman is rated among the top 12 in the draft...

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-20-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

Chiefs scouts (pictured above) discussing future prospects.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Coogs · 03-20-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

Yes...Davis could be the choice there too...but with Sammy Knight on board...we don't need a coinverted safety...we need a LB/DE...
as in Merriman...who could also be our pick.

I don't have anything against Merriman. Have not seen him play so I can not comment at all. I have seen Davis play, and I like him a whole bunch. Safety or OLB would be fine with me.

Sign Law (if he becomes healthy) to go with Warfield at the corners. Knight and Davis at the Safety positions, and I think our secondary would be second to none.

milkman · 03-20-2005, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

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Just say no to Tweeners like Merriman

this goes straight to the argument...draft the best player available vs. what we need. Merriman is rated among the top 12 in the draft...

With the #15 pick, there will probably be 2 or 3 players that you could argue are the best player on the board.

If the choice is between a player who has one clear established position, and a Tweener, then I'm going to pick option A every time.

Mastashake · 03-20-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

With the #15 pick, there will probably be 2 or 3 players that you could argue are the best player on the board.

If the choice is between a player who has one clear established position, and a Tweener, then I'm going to pick option A every time.

You gotta pick A in the NFL, the competition's too good to be putting in Eric Crouch.

Mastashake

CanadaKC · 03-20-2005, 07:17 PM

When all is said and done...I really believe we'll pick Carlos Rogers anyways...

03-19-2005, 03:03 PM
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Draft the best player on the board!! With all the talk about trading our 1st rounder to pick up additional picks I wanted to remind everyone that by drafting higher in round 1 you increase your chances to get a playmaker! Notice I said "increase" and not that it is guaranteed. We also do not want to include Wesley in a trade for Surtain if it is avoidable. Wesley will beat out Woods for the FS position. I do want Surtain but at the cheapest cost. With our 1st round pick we need to take the BEST PLAYER ON THE BOARD!! Regardless of position! This draft strategy will allow us to have a playmaker versus the 2nd or 3rd best available position player who we can all sit around on here after three years and bitch about. We are very critical of Carls draft history but when you look at the good players picked up in the draft (ie TG, LJ) you will notice he selected those who were arguably the best at their position in college and had a solid season leading up to the draft. Now there will be those anomolies such as Simms but Simms didn't come on strong until his senior season and was playing along side Peppers so he should have been considered a risk. ~wants to be GM for a day~
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03-20-2005, 05:24 PM	#16
Digital Takawira to catch a Predator? Good luck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: kc Casino cash: $10004900	watching his workout at the combine, he didn't look like he was doing to good at backpedaling then changing direction at full speed. he looked like he would play better with the play in front of him. i'd much rather have rogers, rolle, or jones. __________________ "just when they think they know all the answers, i change the questions." - 'rowdy' roddy piper
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03-20-2005, 05:28 PM	#17
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Jackson did fine against real live competition. I really think to much emphasis is placed on the combine. I think, and this may be a red flag, without that man to cover, he loses focus. That might explain his poor performance as a FS in his junior year, and his combine performance. __________________
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Mastashake Insomniac Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	So would drafting the best player still be a good idea if he was a SS? I mean, we could, like move him to CB like we did with Dale Carter...IT'LL WORK!!! Seriously, though, go with what you neeeeeed. Mastashake __________________ "Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control."
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03-20-2005, 06:44 PM	#21
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6628668	I'm of the belief that Carlos Rogers in the best CB in the draft. He's certainly on par with Rolle and Jones IMO. If he's there...he's as good as gone.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Just say no to Tweeners like Merriman! __________________
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03-20-2005, 06:57 PM	#25
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6628668	PHP Code: `Just say no to Tweeners like Merriman` this goes straight to the argument...draft the best player available vs. what we need. Merriman is rated among the top 12 in the draft...
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03-20-2005, 07:17 PM	#30
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6628668	When all is said and done...I really believe we'll pick Carlos Rogers anyways...
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