Why the Chiefs need Cowher...

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't want a guy who's already got a legacy. I want a guy who's hungry to build one. I don't want a guy who's been sitting in a studio for 6 years, looking to regain lost glory, I want a guy who'll be sitting in a studio in 16 years, right after he's won his 3rd superbowl here.

I agree with this.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't want a guy who's already got a legacy. I want a guy who's hungry to build one. I don't want a guy who's been sitting in a studio for 6 years, looking to regain lost glory, I want a guy who'll be sitting in a studio in 16 years, right after he's won his 3rd superbowl here.

[Chris Meck]

I like Jay Gruden or Chip Kelly. I'd rather not have Cowher. If we must go retread, I'd rather it was Jon Gruden, as he was in and out rather quickly after building basically two super bowl teams.

But I'd really prefer some new blood, and Jay Gruden or Chip Kelly.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't want a guy who's already got a legacy. I want a guy who's hungry to build one. I don't want a guy who's been sitting in a studio for 6 years, looking to regain lost glory, I want a guy who'll be sitting in a studio in 16 years, right after he's won his 3rd superbowl here.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't want a guy who's already got a legacy. I want a guy who's hungry to build one. I don't want a guy who's been sitting in a studio for 6 years, looking to regain lost glory, I want a guy who'll be sitting in a studio in 16 years, right after he's won his 3rd superbowl here.

At least with legacy comes experience and knowledge on how to build and field a winner. Thats could serve well under an ownership thats clueless and
lacks experience/knowledge.


I think its important to look at the Chiefs current situation because that should dictate a lot in terms of what direction they should go. Should they go with experience/knowledge/previous winner or go with inexperience/youth/lack of knowledge, no track record, etc.

It's not always about what we want, its about what makes the most sense. Or what they(Hunt family) believe is right.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by bricks

At least with legacy comes experience and knowledge on how to build and field a winner. Thats could serve well under an ownership thats clueless and
lacks experience/knowledge.


I think its important to look at the Chiefs current situation because that should dictate a lot in terms of what direction they should go. Should they go with experience/knowledge/previous winner or go with inexperience/youth/lack of knowledge, no track record, etc.

It's not always about what we want, its about what makes the most sense. Or what they(Hunt family) believe is right.

I've used this quote a lot lately:

Einstein once said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Vemeil, Herm, Romeo. We've done the retreads. Over and over. And over. And over. It hasn't worked. It won't work.

We tried once with Todd Haley. Exactly the right idea. Wrong guy. But that's what we need to try, to find a young coach that can have a long tenure. The experience comes with the coordinators. That's where you hire your retreads.

We're trying to emulate Pittsburgh, and I think it's the right approach, but we need to find the 1992 version of Bill Cowher, not the 2013 one.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I've used this quote a lot lately:

Einstein once said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Vemeil, Herm, Romeo. We've done the retreads. Over and over. And over. And over. It hasn't worked. It won't work.

We tried once with Todd Haley. Exactly the right idea. Wrong guy. But that's what we need to try, to find a young coach that can have a long tenure. The experience comes with the coordinators. That's where you hire your retreads.

We're trying to emulate Pittsburgh, and I think it's the right approach, but we need to find the 1992 version of Bill Cowher, not the 2013 one.

Another great post. I gotta go find random slapdicks and give them rep so that I can give you some more.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I've used this quote a lot lately:

Einstein once said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Vemeil, Herm, Romeo. We've done the retreads. Over and over. And over. And over. It hasn't worked. It won't work.

We tried once with Todd Haley. Exactly the right idea. Wrong guy. But that's what we need to try, to find a young coach that can have a long tenure. The experience comes with the coordinators. That's where you hire your retreads.

We're trying to emulate Pittsburgh, and I think it's the right approach, but we need to find the 1992 version of Bill Cowher, not the 2013 one.

No doubt, doing what Pittsburgh does is a lot different than hiring who Pittsburgh already has.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by bricks

At least with legacy comes experience and knowledge on how to build and field a winner. Thats could serve well under an ownership thats clueless and
lacks experience/knowledge.


I think its important to look at the Chiefs current situation because that should dictate a lot in terms of what direction they should go. Should they go with experience/knowledge/previous winner or go with inexperience/youth/lack of knowledge, no track record, etc.

It's not always about what we want, its about what makes the most sense. Or what they(Hunt family) believe is right.

No mystery on how build and field a winner, draft a franchise Qb. fail? draft another one. Fail? draft one until you get one.

The Patriot way=Tom Brady Steelers=Roethlesberger NY Giants=Eli Manning Denver Broncos=Peyton Manning Colts=Andrew Luck Redskins=RG3 Saints=Drew Brees Chiefs=failed recycled QB of the day

It seems pretty obvious to me.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

No mystery on how build and field a winner, draft a franchise Qb. fail? draft another one. Fail? draft one until you get one.

The Patriot way=Tom Brady Steelers=Roethlesberger NY Giants=Eli Manning Denver Broncos=Peyton Manning Colts=Andrew Luck Redskins=RG3 Saints=Drew Brees Chiefs=failed recycled QB of the day

It seems pretty obvious to me.

That's it! The QB seems to make the coach, not the other way around.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

That's it! The QB seems to make the coach, not the other way around.

Exactly, a good HC choice will allow the Franchise QB to succeed. Our team has been doing it just opposite since DV left.

The more recent Chiefs way is to contain the potential mistakes that the mediocre to below average QB will make by restricting him. Make him play scared of ****ing up, yeah!

I offer Stanzi as evidence. When he was fresh out of Iowa, and played in his first preseason game, he was loose and pretty carefree. He looked great.

A year later, he looked like he was afraid of stepping on his own shoelaces.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

That's it! The QB seems to make the coach, not the other way around.

Or did those QBs receive good coaching? Chicken or the egg. I happen to believe that good players develop in good systems.

[Garcia Bronco]

Cowher, Gruden....all coaches that the game has passed by....you guys might be screwed for a couple more seasons.

[Dayze]

Sean Payton (snowballs chance)
Chip Kelly

for me.

[Imon Yourside]

I was never a big Cowher fan, meh...give me Geno and Chip kelly!!!!!!!